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Started by Kylie, September 13, 2016, 02:13:40 AM

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Kylie

The search warrant obtained by Carver County Sheriff's Office for Prince's Medical Records is full of spelling mistakes.
The doctor's name is not spelled correctly even once in the whole document.

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2016091312.jpg

Link to photo of the warrant with mistakes highlighted.

Odd that such an important legal document would have so many errors, especially in this day and age of spelling check etc...


MIRvmn

It makes my wonder if they intentionally misspelled the doctors name, that's what it looks like
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Kylie


Rainbowblue

#3
This.... isn't a search warrant this is an affidavit requesting a search warrant. A search warrant states the area to be searched and is a court order signed by a judge and stamped by the court.

Was a search warrant ever granted in this case?

Thanks for posting this again Kylie.
Glad I got a chance to check it out this time around.

Rainbowblue

Alright I found the warrant.
"Search warrant executed for Prince's medical records, identifies doctor who treated him"
http://documents.latimes.com/search-warrant-prince-medical-records/
Looks legit.

It's stamped by the court.


Kylie

Sorry, I should have mentioned it's part of the warrant.
Stamped by the court yes, but still full of mistakes.
The doctor's name is not spelled correctly even once. That can't be normal ??
I have no idea on legal stuff but that seems weird to me.

Rainbowblue

Yes a misspelled name on a warrant is pretty normal.
They apparently have his address on correctly on the warrant. (We can check if thats a real adress) Everything else appears to be correct looks to be a valid warrant for his medical records. Its all just pileminary information. If the court continued an investigation into this doctor then continued spelling his name wrong on other paperwork then something is really off. They should have spelled his name right though especially if they interviewed him...

This warrant is only asking for Prince's medical records. Spanning a very short period of time. It's not a warrant for his arrest or any thing. They are asking to sieze paperwork not summon the doctor or seize his personhood. A misspelled name wouldnt make it void. I dont think. But if this is serious they shouldve spelled the doctors name right. Otherwise the doctors lawyers could try and have the records made inadmissable if investigation went to trial, perhapse.

Good eye Kylie for catching the misspellings.
OK so
Looks like a real Warrant.
It's stamped and signed
But has misspellings

Is the judge who signed it a sitting judge?
Who is the police officer who requested this warrant?
Why is the affidavit portion so long...? Detailing the death. Those details are usually not in a search warrant the details go into the death investigation reports... looks like it's written for the fans and press... that is definitely not normal.

If there is a Real Death investigation into a Faked Death, Prince would just have to pay back the amount that the investigation cost to the departments. Others have faked deaths or just disappeared and reappeared and merely paid the money back to the tax payers for the investigation.

Nevermind

wonder what was in the brackets behind P name that was blacked out with marker...seems to be after every time his name is written

Rainbowblue

#8
Quote from: Nevermind on September 21, 2016, 04:57:43 AM
wonder what was in the brackets behind P name that was blacked out with marker...seems to be after every time his name is written
Dunno maybe it's his social security number. They protect it by blocking it out due to fraud risk when a person dies. Maybe if you look up other samples of Warrants for cases like this one and that should let you know.
(Please let us know if you find anything).

Rainbowblue

Federal Rules on Warrants
Can't find much on Detective Chris Nelson yet but he is mentioned as the officer concerning warrants in this case.

Looks like they are closing a lot of the records concerning this case. (Look um up and save things while we can)

A tip to look up legal info is just use the right key words. Such as U.S Federal Rules, Search Warrant, Minnesota, Death Certificates
Add Words like "Rules", "Example", "Law".
Or "Misspelled Search Warrant"

Then an article excerpt on Reimbursement to tax payers for expenses in a death investigation for a Death Hoax.

Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure › TITLE VIII. SUPPLEMENTARY AND SPECIAL PROCEEDING

"Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure
Rule 41. Search and Seizure
(a) Scope and Definitions.
(2) Contents of the Warrant.
(A) Warrant to Search for and Seize a Person or Property."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41

"A mere misspelling of a name is not a fatal flaw on legal documents, so it can be enforced.

The only time clerical errors would result in a dismissal is when there is reasonable doubt as to the elements of the warrant. So if there was question as to the subject of the warrant, it could get dismissed because of the error."

(Elements means the legal points, or circumstances, that meet the requirements for a warrant to be issued, if the warrant is... Unwarranted : )

"But since that isn't the case, the warrant is still valid. The only thing that will happen is that the warrant will be amended to correct the spelling. Otherwise, nothing happens legally."

"Nope, they are still looking for you. The misspelling may make it harder to find you, but it doesn't alleviate the court's order for arresting you.... show more

"Nope. Clerical errors such as this can be corrected or amended. Having cases dismissed due to minor typographical errors or similar technicalities is an urban myth."
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101215090341AA19BD3

AVVO My name was mispelled on a search warrant

"The fact that your name was spelled wrong probably won't make a whole lot of a difference. This that the apartment (address) was wrong could make a tremendous difference. Your lawyer should have (if s/he didn't) made a motion to controvert the warrant and have anything obtained as a result quashed."
https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/my-name-was-mispelled-on-a-search-warrant-196839.html

Prince death investigation: Doctor saw Prince twice
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/11/entertainment/prince-investigation/
"The search warrant documents published by the newspapers show investigators sought medical records from the clinic where Schulenberg worked until Tuesday, but do not describe why the doctor was treating Prince.

The search warrant documents obtained by the Times and Star Tribune are no longer publicly available. The documents are under seal and should not have been released, said Nancy Peters of the Hennepin County District Court."

Prince's Medical Records Sought by Investigators

"The court documents were filed May 6, but were accidentally left unsealed until May 10, when authorities took action to seal it, according to theStar-Tribune."

http://blogs.webmd.com/breaking-news/2016/05/princes-medical-records-sought-by-investigators.html

Detective Chris Nelson is mentioned in connection with the Warrants even one in Moline IL. (A different state Not in his jurisdiction)

Minnesota Detectives Ask For Moline Records After Prince Death
BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS / FOX ILLINOISTUESDAY, MAY 3RD 2016

"CHANHASSEN, Minn. (AP) — Detectives in Minnesota have asked authorities in Moline, Illinois, for fire and ambulance records related to the emergency landing of a plane carrying Prince on April 15. Carver County Sheriff's Detective Chris Nelson made the request of the city clerk in an April 28 email. Nelson also asked a city detective for the name of the hospital that treated Prince."
http://foxillinois.com/news/local/minnesota-detectives-ask-for-moline-records-after-prince-death

(Doesn't show a warrant or a request for one for Moline sounds bogus)

(Here is an example of a person who faked there death unsuccessfully and was asked to pay for the death investigation)
Faked-death Case Could Become Costly
Man Held In Hoax May Get Police Tab
June 10, 1999|

"A countywide investigation of an apparent murder Saturday involved up to 70 police officers, an Illinois state police helicopter, trained divers, and Jake, a German Shepherd police dog, working the case from dawn to dusk.

Now, after determining they had been investigating an elaborate hoax, McHenry County prosecutors said they want the man who allegedly carried out the scheme to reimburse authorities thousands of dollars for wasted use of manpower and equipment.

Tony M. Schmidt, 31, of McHenry, was arrested Saturday evening for allegedly faking his own murder and trying to pin the crime on his ex-girlfriend. He has been charged with disorderly conduct and conspiracy to commit disorderly conduct.

If he is convicted, prosecutors plan to seek repayment as part of the sentencing process.
"We will be asking the police agencies to give us some idea of the costs involved".
Why not? If you pull a stunt like that, why not at least try to recover some of the cost for the taxpayer?"

At dusk, the scheme began to unravel when police learned that Schmidt had been collecting and saving his own blood, which he had allegedly splattered in the car to mimic a gunshot, and had three books in his home on how to take revenge on enemies, including advice on how to fake your own death.

"I have to calculate overtime for every person, multiply it by six and consider the cost of equipment," Nygren said.
"We're just glad that it was solved that fast and that we did not have an actual homicide," Donahue said."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-06-10/news/9906100340_1_police-dog-police-officers-police-tab

Mrfs3121

Crazy that the guy in the investigation has the last name Nelson. Hmm, just a thought.

Kylie


Alexa de Paris

...and mimic a gunshot?? like..the gunshots that were reported before the sherriffs arrived that day??? weird indeed...