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Murder or Death Hoax? A Private Investigator can answer these questions

Started by Rainbowblue, January 05, 2017, 12:02:43 AM

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Julles83

That is also a good point.
Thanks!
There are so many different layers to this. 

Rainbowblue

 Ah yes and the Privacy thing.
I wrote a long time ago I didn't want to follow him around or locate his whereabouts. Others expressed other things. But I really don't think we should actively seek him out. Even if someone found him he can just say he is someone else.

Perhaps we just want to know he is definitely not dead and is safe.

Julles83

Yes, I would like to know that he is okay.
The whole thing is just too off for him to actually be dead.
There is a lot of false information going around, stories are changing, and the more I have dug around, the more it doesn't make sense!

Luna

Really  happy to hear about  the new   level  . And  something else I wanted ask .We

Must  watch out  with this  New information  we need more privacy  we need  something like code  for  our  door  here  because  every time  I see  many  guest  in without   we know  who  everyone  easily  can come in they can read about  every words   and the idea  .thanks fo reading.

MIRvmn

Yes I agree, all we need to do is find out is if hes still alive but shouldn't try to find him (and I don't think we would even if we tried). I think since a death hoax isn't illigal it wasn't any problem for the police, coroner etc to help Prince with this. He bought a new identity and moved on but seems like hes still in charge of what's happening and helping out with things until the estate can handle things on their own. We can see proof of this by how fast everything has been handled since his "death" (the museum, publishing deal etc) like their following instructions.
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight

MIRvmn

Quote from: Luna on January 09, 2017, 09:37:52 PM
Really  happy to hear about  the new   level  . And  something else I wanted ask .We

Must  watch out  with this  New information  we need more privacy  we need  something like code  for  our  door  here  because  every time  I see  many  guest  in without   we know  who  everyone  easily  can come in they can read about  every words   and the idea  .thanks fo reading.
Yes ur right, we must be careful
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight

Luna

I also  agree with you about the successful   business  now  more than before  I do believe  that Prince  self   is behind  this  success. And  something like strange to me  doesn't make sene   for someone like Prince  the  whole income  in the bank  is $(??????) That  .sorry  but  something  here isn't   truth   .Prince  has  enough  many  he can buy  the silence  frome  half  Minneapolis  .And  still   no  will. I wonder .

I think everyone  did get enough  money or property  for their  silence role  in this show.

Rainbowblue

Quote from: Julles83 on January 09, 2017, 05:55:20 PM
Just my thoughts, not trying to upset anyone...
No worries. I'm not trying to get upset or upset anyone. Thanks for your consideration.
It's alright to question a theory, hypothesis, plan of action or thought someone has stated.
But it's not alright to question a person in a personal manner.
I Ask people to show the facts that helped them come to that thought.
Play devil's advocate sometimes just to get ideas fleshed out. It would be good if some of the people who don't think it is possible Prince maybe alive, that he was murdered or are on the fence joined the conversation and debated us. You know to keep us researching and thinking from all angles. Try and keep logic going.

Um yeah Luna
I've been noticing that. It may be just members who aren't logging in. You may have to talk to the admins about a private area for members only. Could be the guests are looky-loos. But u r right we don't know who they are and anyone can look in. If it's Prince's team perhaps they can read we don't mean anyone any harm. Not writing a book for profit, creating YouTube videos doing shows or interviews about Prince faking his death or exposing him if he did. Just want to know if he's okay. I guess.

Yeah Luna you are correct, gotta protect the information better.

Looking at the "clues" strange occurrences... Really Prince? Really? The weird death, handling of the corpse
and police investigation...
If he's alive and only wanted privacy and to fade away from the public why not just pick heart attack due to over working or something else more believable, why the mystery? What other conclusions and action plans can be expected?
It's his life and his decision but is his life over?
Any questions, plans, issues concerns observations alternative actions? Thoghts Anyone?


Julles83

There has always been a bit of mystery behind prince. He is smart, and resourceful. I believe there is a lot of incorrect information floating around! I too think prince is behind most, if not all of it..
Seems like the investigation is ONLY in Minnesota. There hasn't been any talk about what was in all the other properties he owns. Why?
Seems like we keep getting the same information over, and over again.

Panda

I really, really want to believe that he is alive and just decided to retire.  But I keep wondering if maybe he really was sick.  Tyka said she had been expecting this for 2 years.  But there was never any sign of the coroner at PP or his body being taken away.  Also, the cremation within 2 days doesn't make sense.  What if he is very sick and faked his death because he doesn't want the public to watch him die? There was a rumor that he had AIDS and I read somewhere that the last couple of years he refrained from sexual relationships.  I also read that JWs convinced him to stop taking his meds.  I think it is possible that he is very sick and does not want the world to know, so he disappeared.   I don't think he dies, but I also don't think he is well.  He looked way too thin during his last performances.  I hope in my heart that he simply wanted to retire, but I fear that he may have had to retire because of health issues.

I do believe that MJ really died because there was a trail and a man went to prison.  But with Prince, nothing.  And I am having a hard time believing that Prince would just walk away from everything.  He is a control freak, so how could he give up so much control over PP and everything he owns. 

Just some thoughts that keep popping into my head. 

I also want to say that I enjoy reading everyone's thoughts, comments and discoveries.  You all have great ideas.


Rainbowblue

Prince was baptized Jehovah's witness and the elders watch every thing you do and will kick you out if you admit to having premarital sex of any kind. Including mutual masturbation and oral sex. Something Like you will be kicked out of the New Earth when Jehovah builds his kingdom. You will never see God or something like that, if they catch you. He's had several lovers since his last marriage and the songs he wrote about his sexual experiences after marriage such as "Breakfast can wait" which he talks about oral sex show he was most likely having oral sex. Not to get into too much about this guy's sex life... yet accounts of his version of absence from ppl who were "abstaining" with him even prior to his conversion show his version of abstinence wasn't always monastic celibacy. But I wasn't there so... Still his comments about "abstinence" should be taken with a grain of salt considering the circumstances. But you'd have to ask him or his girlfriends to really know for sure. Doubt many would say much. Still if he Practiced Celibacy for a period in between committed girlfriends and abstained from vaginal intercourse with some of his girlfriends for romantic, spiritual reasons, or what have you doesn't mean he was abstaining from other forms of sex or he has AIDS.

If anyone wants to discuss the AIDS questions... Or whatever else have at it.

But it is commonly believed by MJ believers that the death trial was a TV show production. No one has a record of his doctor being in jail no inmate saw him either. MJ's mom even mentioned it under oath at the other trial. Also I think they proved the judge was an actor.
I'm going to post some links on this same comment and edit them in. Check back for the links some time if you want. They'll be here sooner or later

Glad to hear you talking Panda :)

MIRvmn

Quote from: Panda on January 12, 2017, 04:07:57 AM
I really, really want to believe that he is alive and just decided to retire.  But I keep wondering if maybe he really was sick.  Tyka said she had been expecting this for 2 years.  But there was never any sign of the coroner at PP or his body being taken away.  Also, the cremation within 2 days doesn't make sense.  What if he is very sick and faked his death because he doesn't want the public to watch him die? There was a rumor that he had AIDS and I read somewhere that the last couple of years he refrained from sexual relationships.  I also read that JWs convinced him to stop taking his meds.  I think it is possible that he is very sick and does not want the world to know, so he disappeared.   I don't think he dies, but I also don't think he is well.  He looked way too thin during his last performances.  I hope in my heart that he simply wanted to retire, but I fear that he may have had to retire because of health issues.

I do believe that MJ really died because there was a trail and a man went to prison.  But with Prince, nothing.  And I am having a hard time believing that Prince would just walk away from everything.  He is a control freak, so how could he give up so much control over PP and everything he owns. 

Just some thoughts that keep popping into my head. 

I also want to say that I enjoy reading everyone's thoughts, comments and discoveries.  You all have great ideas.
It has crossed my mind that he might be sick since he was so thin/frail and that's the reason for him faking his death cuz he don't want his fans to worry, but on the other hand he has been very thin before. I guess we will never know why he retired.
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight

Eliss

Private investigator idea is nice but this can make him angry. I believe Prince is still alive somewhere and I also believe Mj is still alive too.

Prince's true love is Music. He didn't want to leave his music and Fam but I think he had to retire before his forecast, because he was sick. And of course the ''Elites'' ..

I told ahead of, he is a very special man so maybe he only wants to make know people that he is alive .. nothing more.

Also, I don't believe rumors about AIDS..




Everyone Has Demons and Angels ..

Julles83

I believe he's alive.
He is a comtrol freak, and I don't think he walked away, I think he used the hoax add a way to gain even more control over things. It's all moving too quick for him not to be behind it.
He has always been small, and according to friends was never much of an eater. I'm sure touring took a lot out of him.
I do believe that he had or has, health issues, but I'm not convinced that it was AIDS. Prince wouldn't let anyone convince him of anything, in my opinion. 
I think the seizures came back. 

Luna

I think  everyone here knows   my opinion  about this subject   Why I'm  here  simply because I don't believe  that Prince has passed  away.   I  can't  use  (was) when I'm writing some thing  about Prince. It's very  sad that every time  we come back  to the same  dots  .The  whole stories  about Prince 1 flu 2 drug's overdose  3 Aids  these  are  certainly not the truth   everyone knows that TMZ how's Warner bros are the owner  are  prince's enemies  they tell the lies and people believing in everything  without  asking themselves how did prince died ? Show me the  real death certificate  or autopsy more than I phage  the investigation not fini shed yet  the day after she had his ashes  she knew about 2 year's   and her brother's body stayed in elevator for 6 hours? Seriously   if prince preparing to die  why he didn't have a will  .please  I don't want  bring  the old  news  again  because it's really waste of time .I'm sorry  but I don't promise   anyone here that next year they can see prince walking in  the shops or someone saw him on his bike  maybe  we can never  find out  I miss him really  dearly. . I DO believe  that  Prince  is very  clever man   and he knew that he surrounded with  enemies  he  gave us too much  he's too generous  he's tired and need rest.why why and  why so many questions without answers  like a rainbow without colour like a mouth withou tounge  they must answer our question first then we decide  if we can believe that Prince  is really not with us any more .I know that people die every day and Prince too is a human   but    givè me  an acceptable reason  how?  .Prince    remained  thin  because    he couldn't sleep  long   and  hard worker .All of you  I'm  very  sorry but  I can't   shake my head and say  OK    understood   No  I don't understand WHY  and  how  Prince has died   with  some  rubbish evidence  that T M Z   showed us .Thanks everyone.