Murder or Death Hoax? A Private Investigator can answer these questions

Rainbowblue · January 23, 2017, 09:44:46 PM

Quote from: Luna on January 12, 2017, 11:17:38 PM
I think everyone here knows my opinion about this subject Why I'm here simply because I don't believe that Prince has passed away. I can't use (was) when I'm writing some thing about Prince. It's very sad that every time we come back to the same dots .The whole stories about Prince 1 flu 2 drug's overdose 3 Aids these are certainly not the truth everyone knows that TMZ how's Warner bros are the owner are prince's enemies they tell the lies and people believing in everything without asking themselves how did prince died ? Show me the real death certificate or autopsy more than I phage the investigation not fini shed yet the day after she had his ashes she knew about 2 year's and her brother's body stayed in elevator for 6 hours? Seriously if prince preparing to die why he didn't have a will .please I don't want bring the old news again because it's really waste of time .I'm sorry but I don't promise anyone here that next year they can see prince walking in the shops or someone saw him on his bike maybe we can never find out I miss him really dearly. . I DO believe that Prince is very clever man and he knew that he surrounded with enemies he gave us too much he's too generous he's tired and need rest.why why and why so many questions without answers like a rainbow without colour like a mouth withou tounge they must answer our question first then we decide if we can believe that Prince is really not with us any more .I know that people die every day and Prince too is a human but givè me an acceptable reason how? .Prince remained thin because he couldn't sleep long and hard worker .All of you I'm very sorry but I can't shake my head and say OK understood No I don't understand WHY and how Prince has died with some rubbish evidence that T M Z showed us .Thanks everyone.

You expressed yourself beautifully here Luna. You shut it down.
I can relate. Panda as well. I want to believe Prince is alive but there needs to be more research and evidence to support a belief. I feel as if he's alive. I'd rather reasonably "know" Prince is alive and turn over the stones and look into things, while respecting his privacy.
Only a living man can be angry at people checking his pulse. But still a reasonable person would understand why someone is checking in on them. We need more Information.
For example, I don't think things that can be easily explained away as coincidence, such as 777, 2131, death dates and song lyrics are on their own enough to prove Prince is alive.
I agree Luna, We need to do more research, get more facts rather than clutch at straws letting so little, quinch our thirst.
I've been studying conspiracy theories since I was an early teen. Seen a few people go "crazy" believing every theory they read that sounds reasonable enough to them. There is nothing wrong with dealing with mental health issues. However Can't believe everything, it's good to do some fact checking.
We haven't seen Prince's dead body but we haven't seen his living body either...
Not that I'm trying to "see" Prince but we need to see more than we are being shown to truly "know" or reasonably make a good guess, based on logic.

A Private investigator who deals with these cases professionally, could be a big help.

The Death of Prince is very emotional no need for anyone here to be sorry about being passionate about finding the truth. Let's hopefully use this passion for truth productively.
http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=265.msg992;topicseen#new

Quote from: Panda on January 12, 2017, 04:07:57 AM
I do believe that MJ really died because there was a trail and a man went to prison. But with Prince, nothing.

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?action=post;quote=987;topic=265.15

Quote from: Rainbowblue on January 12, 2017, 06:36:13 AM
But it is commonly believed by MJ believers that the death trial was a TV show production. No one has a record of his doctor being in jail no inmate saw him either. MJ's mom even mentioned it under oath at the other trial. Also I think they proved the judge was an actor.
I'm going to post some links on this same comment and edit them in. Check back for the links some time if you want. They'll be here sooner or later

Glad to hear you talking Panda

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?action=post;quote=987;topic=265.15

(So Panda sorry it is taking me so long to post this, having trouble finding everything a few links are gone. Will edit more in later. Please check back.H ere are some videos, articles and pages I found informative)

"Watch "Michael Jackson Death Hoax (Life Casts)" on YouTube"
https://youtu.be/WGX3TlPcZZ4
Watch "Conrad Murray Trial Analysis-- 6 Reasons That May Confirm a DEATH HOAX" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/fMqP0lSbuWQ
(Here is an excerpt from MJHoaxEvidence I learn a lot from this person very informative and well researched).

"MJHoaxEvidence"

"Reason 1: WRONG DATES--Why can't the court get any IMPORTANT dates right? Why are there typos and incorrect dates EVERYWHERE in this trial?

Reason 2: (in)CORRECT COURT PROCEDURES--What is the correct procedure when it comes to the way a verdict is read? Why did Judge Michael Pastor not follow the procedures done as in other trials? Can a Juror correct a mistake on his/her own?

Reason 3: RISING IN COURT--What is common when it comes to reading the verdict in a trial. Isn't the defendant suppossed to STAND UP?!?!?

Reason 4: NAMES-What is Michael Jackson's middle name? Is it Joseph or JOE? Well evidence suggests that his middle name is Joe as it is explained in Jermaine Jackson's current book "You Are Not Alone- Through a Brother's Eyes". There is other proof that his middle name is JOE as well. If the court has an incorrection in a trial, the verdict is liable to be tossed out!!!

Reason 5: HANDCUFF PROCEDURE--What is the correct procedure when handcuffing a prisoner or convicted felon? Should they be in a seated position or standing?

Reason 6: PHOTOSHOPPED AUTOPSY PHOTO--Despite other visual reasons why the autopsy photo is a clear fake, there is also a confirmation from a computer program that the AUTOPSY PHOTO IS A FAKE.

Decide for yourselves. I have done extensive research for over a period of two years. Despite the fact that there was a trial and a verdict does NOT MEAN THAT MICAHEL IS DEAD. According to the evidence that I have seen in the trial and other inconsistant stories from this trial, it leads many to believe that Michael Jackson is very much alive and well."
"Watch "Top 7 Clues Murray Trial was Fake (Michael Jackson)" on YouTube"
https://youtu.be/TZNXikUoc5I

(The Death Hoax got so popular that the people who were accused of killing him didn't believe he was dead)
"AEG attorney Marvin Putnam said he would not stipulate that Michael Jackson was dead."

"Michael Jackson-AEG wrongful death trial opensMonday"
April 23, 2013|By Jeff Gottlieb
"Jackson's mother and children are suing Los Angeles entertainment giant AEG, alleging it is liable for Jackson's death because it hired and supervised Dr. Conrad Murray, who used a powerful surgical anesthetic in an effort to help the singer cope with insomnia. Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in 2011.

Perhaps the oddest moment of the jury picking occurred Tuesday when AEG attorney Marvin Putnam said he would not stipulate that Michael Jackson was dead."
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/23/local/la-me-ln-michael-jackson-aeg-20130423

"Marvin Putnam of AEG live Michael Jackson is NOT dead"
Apr 23, 2013 - "Marvin Putnam said he would not stipulate that Michael Jackson was dead." Marvin Putman's latest statement is rather ..."
http://www.teammichaeljackson.com/archives/8186

"In the law of the United States, a stipulation is a formal legal acknowledgement and agreement made between opposing parties prior to a pending hearing or trial. For example, both parties might stipulate to certain facts, and therefore not have to argue those facts in court."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipulation

"Michael Jackson Death Hoax Community AEG Lawyer won't stipulate"
Apr 24, 2013 - AEG Lawyer won't stipulate Michael Jackson as being ... Panish: I'm asking forstipulation that MJ's dead. http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=23808.0

"Watch "AEG Lawyer Will Not Stipulate That MJ Was Dead" on YouTube"
https://youtu.be/--EtuEng6W0

AEG lawyer concedes: Michael Jackson is dead
By Alan Duke, CNN Thu May 2, 2013
"A week after AEG's lawyer refused to concede for legal arguments that Michael Jackson is dead, he acknowledged the pop icon's death in court.

The stipulation -- an agreement between two parties in a case that something is a given fact -- could save time in a trial that is expected to last several months.

Michael Jackson's mother and children are suing AEG Live, contending the concert promoter is liable for the pop icon's death because it negligently hired, retained and supervised Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician convicted of involuntary manslaughter in his death.

While acknowledging Jackson died on June 25, 2009, AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam is still reluctant to stipulate what killed him and that Murray was the cause.

Panish: "I'm asking for a stipulation that Michael Jackson died and the cause of death. Are you willing to stipulate that Michael Jackson died?"

Putnam: "Absolutely."

Panish: "Are you willing to stipulate that the cause of his death was Dr. Murray?"

Putnam: "That you've never asked before. Let me look at what that means."

Putnam refused to stipulate that Jackson was dead at a pretrial hearing last week, later explaining to CNN that he did not want to concede any elements that are needed to prove the case against AEG.

AEG organized and hosted a massive public memorial service for Jackson at the Staples Center in Los Angeles 12 days after his death.

Dr. Christopher Rogers, the deputy medical examiner who conducted the autopsy on Jackson, will be called to testify after that questioning of Martinez concludes Thursday. No court is scheduled for Friday."
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/showbiz/jackson-death-trial/

(The possible Death Hoax of Michael Jackson being acknowledged in court)

(I don't agree with some of her tactics or conclusions but this death hoax researcher makes very good videos and I and others noticed the same things she speaks about ...)Watch "Conrad Murray Convicted Himself" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/aw0hejx3NJY

(We don't have any footage of Conrad Murray being in jail or released from jail.)
Will post more soon

Luna · January 24, 2017, 09:29:53 AM

Thanks 🌈Raainbowblue🌈 for the explaining .I do belive that in 💜PRINCE'S 💜 case our thoughts is very close. I read always what you write .And the same as well in ❤MJ❤trial I see as boring movie .I watch often on YouTube what they don't want us to see.thanks

Luna · January 24, 2017, 10:32:27 AM

Rainbow my feelings telling me the same that 💜prince💜 is alive since he didn't like New change in America and his star reached the heights levels in the sky .he is honestly telling us that he wanted die in different place because he don't liked here anymore especially when he send us his clue with new song 🌜moon beam level🌛I'm certain that this song isn't old one that's really the new one thanks.

Luna · January 24, 2017, 11:55:50 AM

I wonder why we didn't speak about moon beam levels? It's interesting subject or doing pull or how many users think that the lyrics is very New not old how they telling us and we can ask if they shear their thought about it you know how it worked and we can find some new clue wen we shear our thoughts thanks

MIRvmn · January 24, 2017, 01:26:25 PM

Quote from: Luna on January 24, 2017, 10:32:27 AM
Rainbow my feelings telling me the same that 💜prince💜 is alive since he didn't like New change in America and his star reached the heights levels in the sky .he is honestly telling us that he wanted die in different place because he don't liked here anymore especially when he send us his clue with new song 🌜moon beam level🌛I'm certain that this song isn't old one that's really the new one thanks.

I find it interesting that out of all unreleased songs Prince chose Moonbeam Levels (a song he has planned to release before in 1989 and 2002 but has holding it back for some reason) to be included on the new greatest hits package, maybe he felt that now was the right time to release it since it contains lyrics which best describes how he feel right now about everything. The song works well with the hoax and is a obviously a clue, what makes me think that is not only how the lyrics fits, but how well the title "Moonbeam levels" fits into all of this. We have seen Princes face in the moon numerous times after his "death" on eclusive merchandise from Paisley Park (t-shirts etc), adverts and his latest tweet from 24th august last year. Not to mention the moon phases on his clothes. So the moon has played a huge part in the hoax and worked well as one of his clues.

MIRvmn · January 24, 2017, 01:45:12 PM

I also agree with Rainbowblue, we need more information to be sure if hes still alive and the most logical step at this point in order to move forward is to find the death certificate. But that itself isn't a real proof of his death since u can fake anything and it's possible Prince has everything covered in order for this hoax to be as realistic as possible, we all know how clever he is. But then again, why didn't they show us the real death certificate from the begining? I'm not affraid of finding out the truth, I'm well aware of that he might actually be dead but at this point theres more hinting that hes alive rather than dead

Luna · January 24, 2017, 02:25:08 PM

Thanks for your reply you have 🐥🐥two birds with one stone. The moon has very big place in prince's work you're very wise there's absolutely something special behind his jewels ears🌞🌚and the star's. The 8the track in prince's the23 album RAVE UN2 THE JOY CANTASTIC.TBANKS AGAIN

Julles83 · January 24, 2017, 07:31:36 PM

I agree that there is a possibilitythat he may actually be dead, but, I agree even more that there is a possibility that he is not.
I have listened to moonbeam levels a number of times, and I feel like there is a message there. "I'm looking for a better place to die"
He left America before because he didn't like it here, why not do it again? Only this time, permanently.
I've also been giving some thought about the sealed documents. What if they arent in fact sealed? Because there is nothing to seal?

Luna · January 24, 2017, 09:44:07 PM

Thanks Julles83 .And exactly again and again I repeating that prince is very clever man and he is interested in the news and what's happening in his area.he is clearly telling us what he think about this world he left all the fool's. I'm certain that in April nothing new they can tell us .

Rainbowblue · January 25, 2017, 07:09:32 AM

I (do NOT) think things that can be easily explained away as coincidence... such as song lyrics, are on their own, enough to prove Prince is alive.

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=265.msg1052;topicseen#new

I do NOT think song lyrics are on their own enough to prove Prince is alive. Song lyrics can easily be explained away as coincidence.

I don't think Prince is talking about moving away from America to die in a different physical place in "Moonbeam Levels". The Babylon system, Matrix or Illuminati is everywhere on this planet.
Prince said many times he wouldn't ever leave Miniapplolis. Where ever he roamed, that he would always have a home there.
In Moonbeam levels, he also says he "doesn't really want to die" repeatedly. Later Jehovah Witness beliefs coincide with that. Becoming Immortal and creating heaven on Earth. This is found in all beliefs systems that teach on the 3rd eye. Particularly ancient Kemetic or Egyptian beliefs. The diety Thoth... Restoration to righteousness...Physical Immortality on Earth..The 3rd Eye...The Moon... The Love Symbol... Prince.
I think he is talking about spiritual transcendence moving to another place spiritually as well as Mentally and Physically.
Luna, Julles and MIRvmn, I agree Moonbeam levels being released according to his wishes looks like it is definitely a "clue".

Have you all listened to "Way back Home"?

But it can also be argued it's all coincidence. Song lyrics are not hard facts. Songs create , pictures and journeys in sound and vibration. A private investigator would be less likely to get distracted by songs or conspiracies, nor caught up in wishes and just stick to provable facts.

Luna · January 25, 2017, 08:52:13 AM

A gree with you that song lyrics is not the prove and evidence I wanted that we share our idea abut it .all so I didn't mean that Prince has moved from America he moved from the rules only and the haunting area he can easily change his please we know that he has many property inside minneapolis thanks for your participate.

Julles83 · January 25, 2017, 06:50:20 PM

I think it's clear we all have different ways of thinking/ seeing things.
I simply was stating mine. I'm not saying I KNOW he left America, I'm just saying that he has done it before, why not again. I have no proof.
Honestly, we have no proof of anything. Is he dead? No proof. His he alive? Still, no proof.
I know that I personally find all the numbers involved in this fascinating simply because he always seemed to play off of numbers.
He himself said that there are no such things as coincidences.
Certainly don't mean to upset anyone here by saying what I think.
The whole thing is a mystery much like prince himself.

Luna · January 25, 2017, 07:40:49 PM

Be sure Julles 83 you're welcome here you're not upset anyone and why we're here to share and discuss this mystery about prince's passing . You're not wrong that we haven't any proofs if he's dead or alive ? And here we are to speak about every thing out loud and tell and ask about this matter .Really we need real action but I'm certain that Prince feel more protected in his own place he doesn't trust strangers thanks.

Julles83 · January 25, 2017, 07:56:42 PM

Thank you Luna. You're right, he doesn't trust strangers. There is just so much that doesn't make sense. So much false information. False documents. False media publication's. We don't know what is true, and what is not at this point. Thanks for your response!

Luna · January 25, 2017, 08:13:33 PM

:)Be Patient here nobody trust the media .We give them one more chance .I'm looking forward in April when they come with something new all though I expect nothig new .we wait.thanks