Prince's legal name Prince Roger Nelson ?

[MIRvmn]

did u notice on the live birth cert..no. 122-58-0-09233 and then near the right hand corner another no. 122-58-055236 wonder Y?

Interesting since theres not supposed to be 2 different ones

[Kylie]

I don't know as I don't live in the USA but, is it possible those numbers are because the birth certificate was re printed.
Like that is a duplicate of the original certificate. I have another screenshot of the birth certificate and it doesn't have those other numbers.

[Rainbowblue]

So I guess regardless of the death being a hoax or not, if the death certificate says Rogers, it is still valid.
But we've not seen any actual death certificate, as Rainbowblue pointed out.
I'm sure he was named as Prince Rogers Nelson on legal documents I have seen so perhaps he had his name formally changed.

Technically a Death Certificate with the wrong name is NOT valid. However incorrect names of the deceased is extremely common. If there isn't a problem caused by the incorrect name being on a death certificate such as with the insurance payout, the will or probate most people just leave it. Becuse the courts ASSUME it's VALID if no one contests it. Still the true and correct name of the decedent MUST be used for the Death Certificate to be Truly valid.

No we have not seen a copy of a Certified true and correct Death Certificate for Prince. Or any legal documents proving his death.

I doubt he ever had a legal name change from "Roger" to "Rogers". If he did there would be documented proof that he applied for one with the courts for one (a legal name change).

A legal name change is public information you'd just have to go down to the court and ask for a copy.

Just as people pulled up his Birth Certificate and Marriage Certificate they'd pull up a documented legal name change.

If he had one there would be an Application for a Legal Name Change and a Court Order granting the legal name change.

Anyone can also pull up almost any court documents, such as law suits on him. As long as they aren't "private " details. They'd just have to submit a request to the court and pay the fee.

He's had some real fanatics who'd get what ever legal information they could on him, post it online and discuss it.

I don't think Prince liked that though when it came to private information such as those about the private details of his marriages and children. It's kinda invasive. But information about things such as record contracts, frivolous lawsuits and other public information, he may be fine with. (Don't know) A marriage license and divorce decrees are also public information for example but the details of a divorce would fall under private information.

People posted all kinds of info with legal documents on his name regarding his name change to the love symbol O(+>

I don't know for sure but I think he became the love symbol O(+> through press releases and common usage as well. I haven't seen a documented legal name change when he became the symbol either.

Why is there no name change documention for the change to Rogers?

The name Prince Rogers seems to have been changed through "Common Usage" only. He just added an "s" it seems. Tika just added a "Y" to applications etc to change the spelling. Its close enough in spelling to the original just one letter. Not an completely new name...But their true and correct names are still "Prince Roger" not "RogerS" and "Tika" not "Tyka".

I posted a bunch of articles on this a a few comments back. Changing the spelling of ones name through "common usage".

It's common practice but not legal practice.

With no court granted legal name change:
The name on his Death Certificate would HAVE to be the same as his Birth Certificate Prince Roger Nelson to be truly valid.

But no legally certified death records have been provided for Prince of any kind. Just a press release and a non certified copy for informational purposes only.

So how are the people supposed to know for sure that he is physically dead?... this time.

[Rainbowblue]

"When the information for a certificate is first compiled, there is room for error. People who give information about deaths are often family members in a time of stress. They may give out erroneous information about the deceased. The people recording the information can make mistakes too. For example, it is not unusual to find misspellings in older records of all types. In addition, the data entry process for the index allowed some room for error in typing and re-typing information."
Minnesota Historical Society: Minnesota Death Certificates Index link
https://www.minnpost.com/perspectives/2008/02/minnesota-historical-society-minnesota-death-certificates-index

How to Amend a Death Certificate

"A death certificate serves as proof that a person has died and lists the cause of death. It also includes vital information, including the decedent's birth date, etc... Surviving children and spouses need death certificates to collect death benefits, among other things. You can and should amend incorrect or missing information on death certificates. Anyone can amend a death certificate as long as the changes are approved by the informant who originally approved the death certificate, and you present evidence to support your claims.

It is possible, and imperative, to amend any and all incorrect details of the death certificate.

Incorrect dates, misspelled names, and other personal information should always be corrected."
How to Amend a Death Certificate Wikihow link
http://m.wikihow.com/Amend-a-Death-Certificate

4601.2100 - Minnesota Administrative Rules
4601.2100 DEATH RECORD AMENDMENTS.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/rules/?id=4601.2100

(I doubt anyone has amended his Death Certificate. If so... There would be a record of his Death Certificate being amended. Any of us can make a legal request to amend the death certificate, if one exists).

[Kylie]

I guess if Prince's death certificate had been amended to Roger, we wouldn't know about it anyway.
Thanks, Rainbowblue for proving such in depth information.

Souza mentioned earlier about life insurance policies for Michael and Elvis. I don't know if Prince had one or how we could find out if he had one or if it has cashed in or claimed.

[Kylie]

I found this today. It's actually being auctioned off by Juliens.
It's a certificate of title from 1977 for Prince Roger Nelson

[Thea]

I found this today. It's actually being auctioned off by Juliens.
It's a certificate of title from 1977 for Prince Roger Nelson

Thanks for posting this, Kylie!  I find it interesting that it's being auctioned off.  This was a certificate of title for Prince Roger Nelson, the person and not Prince Rogers Nelson, the celebrity!  I've always thought it was strange that his middle name was Rogers instead of Roger.  Generally, a person doesn't have a middle name like a last name unless it's a woman who is married and has dropped her middle name and placed her maiden name in its place.

[MIRvmn]

Thanks Kylie  and yes ur right Thea, its a certificate for the person Prince Roger Nelson and not the celebrity.

[Rainbowblue]

I found this today. It's actually being auctioned off by Juliens.
It's a certificate of title from 1977 for Prince Roger Nelson

Thanks for posting this Kylie.

Julien's Auctions sells fakes.
Here is a whole web page about it from team Michael Jackson
http://www.teammichaeljackson.com/juliens-auctions

This Certificate of Title for Prince looks like a fake. It is not stamped by the court there is no dated court filing stamp. There is no stamped signature from the representative of the courts. There is no wear and tear on the certificate either.

Looks like a fake so far.

Here are some examples of Certificate of Title from Missouri. They are old but they have signatures and stamps.

[Rainbowblue]

Since we've been checking this out. I've been thinking the best evidence we've seen is the Birth Announcement for Prince Roger Nelson hand written by his mother it seems. As well as the motorcycle registration which was issued after he became famous. He was named after his father's stage name Prince Rogers. It looks as if Prince added the s in honor of his dad at some point.

Great work Kylie

[Kylie]

Oops!!  I had no idea that Juliens sells fake items. And being from Australia I have no idea what a certificate of title is supposed to look like so I really appreciate your post to let me know

[Rainbowblue]

Oops!!  I had no idea that Juliens sells fake items. And being from Australia I have no idea what a certificate of title is supposed to look like so I really appreciate your post to let me know

It's cool. We are all still learning. Easier together than own our own. That's why it's good to have this site so we can discuss what we find, bounce ideas off each other. Putting pieces of the puzzle together, researching and searching for the truth.

With the Birth Certificate you posted, plus the motorcycle registration and birth announcement, we have enough evidence to file legal paper work to contest the legality of Prince death certificate and ask that the correct information be added. The "Informant" is Tyka Nelson his sister and she'd have to be the one to grant our request. We can also ask that a true and correct copy of his official certified death certificate be provided to the public.
But I don't want to bug him (Prince) or his family.
Trying to respect his privacy and not expose him to the public or "put him out there, like that".
Still the evidence you've provided is enough to have a death certificate contested.
That's some good work Kylie

[Rainbowblue]

P.s
Can everyone please respect Prince's privacy and not contest his death certificate
P.p.s
(Tyka or Prince if anyone petitions to contest the death certificate asking for a true and correct copy just deny the request and cite the privacy law.)

Such a sad election day, for the U.S of A

[Julles83]

Have we Even seen a death certificate?

[Rainbowblue]

Have we Even seen a death certificate?

Nope.

I wrote an entire thread on it a while back. Under "Non-Certified Death Certificate of Prince Rogers Nelson"
http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.0
http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.0
A Non-Certified Death Certificate is not a legal document it's for informational purposes only. It isn't a declaration of legal death.

There is a little bit on it in this thread too.

No death certificate or offical autopsy report was ever provided for Prince. But this is enough evidence to request via the courts that an official death certificate be produced. So far... There is no evidence of an actual death. It's as if Prince just disappeared. Yet we don't know why...