Did Prince have an epileptic seizure on the plane rather than a drug overdose?

[Rainbowblue]

Did Prince have an epileptic seizure on the plane rather than a drug overdose?

I think so.

It's definitely probable

Prince revealed to Travis Smiley he had epilepsy as a child, until an 'angel' told him he wouldn't be sick anymore.

"I've never spoken about this before, but I was born epileptic,". "I used to have seizures when I was young."

"My mother told me one day I walked in to her and said 'Mom, I'm not going to be sick anymore.' And she said 'Why?' And I said 'Because an angel told me so." Prince said.

He didn't say whether he grew out of the illness or continues to live with epilepsy".
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/prince-reveals-battled-epilepsy-child-rare-interview-angel-told-article-1.365280

https://youtu.be/agD9qVUVHrI

[Rainbowblue]

Did Prince have an epileptic seizure on the plane rather than a drug overdose?

Did Prince's epileptic seizures return?
Could that be a reason to fake his death? To take care of his health.

In this article Judith Hill never said Prince was treated for an overdose at the hospital in Moline Illinois nor was treated for anything. Just being monitored or watched until morning.

Article excerpt:

I Was on That Fateful Flight With Prince: A Protégée Tells Her Story

"His eyes fixed," just before he nodded off across a table from her, Ms. Hill, 32, recalled in an interview here, speaking for the first time about her presence on the April 15 flight from Atlanta, after Prince's two shows there.

Ms. Hill witnessed Prince fall unconscious. "Thankfully, I happened to be looking into his face," she said.

Video Security footage from the airport in Moline, Ill., shows an ambulance stationed on the tarmac to treat Prince after his plane made an emergency landing on April 15.

By the time they arrived, (the ambulance?) he was awake and talking, Ms. Hill said, "which was such a relief to me, because I thought he was gone." She had never seen anything like that happen to him and had no idea what caused his condition.

"I only know what everyone knows about his pain — I read about it," she said. In person, "he was quick on his feet. Never said anything, that this is hurting, never a sign of struggle. That's why it's all very shocking."

Prince had a reputation for clean living, largely followed a vegan diet and frowned on musicians who worked with him using any recreational drugs. But other friends have acknowledged that Prince apparently became dependent on painkillers.

Ms. Hill did not want to discuss the details of Prince's medical treatment in Moline. He wanted to leave the hospital, but at the urging of his companions, he remained there until morning.

"He wasn't dreary or drowsy, or anything," she said. The mood was peaceful, and Prince seemed like his old self.

"He was very cooperative that whole night," she said, "serious about getting help." By 10:57 that same morning, the ordeal was over, and the plane took off for Paisley Park once again. Ms. Hill returned to Los Angeles soon after.

Still, Prince initially played down the hospital incident to his camp, Ms. Hill said. Prince also came around to the notion that he needed help. As he'd promised Ms. Hill, he began taking steps to heal himself. He underwent tests administered by Dr. Michael Schulenberg, a local physician he had seen earlier.

"He did it because he was concerned, and he wanted to do the right thing for his own body," Ms. Hill said.

Dr. Schulenberg arrived at Paisley Park with the results of some tests, officials have said, just after Prince had been declared dead.

In the hospital, he said, "It's only by God's grace that I'm even here," she recalled.

He told her: "'I had to fight for my life. I remember hearing your voices from afar and saying to myself, 'Follow the voices, follow the voices, get back in your body, you gotta to do this.' And he said it was the hardest thing he'd ever done, to get back into his body like that."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/22/arts/music/prince-death-judith-hill-plane.html?_r=0

Dr. Drew said Judith Hill's account of what happened on the plane sounded more like a seizure than an overdose.

6/22/16

Dr. Drew Pinsky: "To have somebody, their eyes freeze and their sensorium altered before they become unconscious, that is very peculiar. That is not the typical reaction to opiates and opioids. 

It makes me wonder if he also had some sort of seizure phenomenon, and that could be related to the God knows what are the medication he was taking.

Again, we only know about the fentanyl, but they do not give us the report of the other toxicologies. They do not do that in Minnesota, apparently. 

But please keep an eye on that, because that is not somebody just passing out from opioid use."

HOLT: "And I feel like you have been saying that from the beginning. You are always saying there must be something else."

Dr. Drew PINSKY: "Something else."

HOLT: "Yes".

Dr. Drew PINSKY: "That is what is called a partial complex seizure. And why he would have that, that is separate from opioids and opiates. But thanks,"http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1606/22/ddhln.01.html

One of the meds in Prince's blood stream treats epileptic seizures.

"The autopsy report also shows Prince had diazepam, etc in his body, the official said. Diazepam is an anti-anxiety pill sold as Valium. It's a sedative and can also be used to control seizures, which Prince suffered from as a child."
http://www.kctv5.com/story/32807229/correction-prince-death-story

Airplane travel among other things is said to bring on epileptic seizures.
flying with epilepsy | Epilepsy Foundation

http://www.epilepsy.com/connect/forums/living-epilepsy-adults/flying-epilepsy

Did Prince's epileptic seizures return?
Could that be a reason to fake his death? To take care of his health.

I think it is possible.

[medea]

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/3121#section=Top
Pay atention to number.
I suspect he never get rid from epilepsy.

[MIRvmn]

Well if something really happened to Prince on the plane then it was most likely an epileptic seizure cuz I definitely don't believe it was a drug overdose. I haven't thought about this but u might be on to something here, if there was problem with his health  it was most likely that the  epileptic seizure returned and it could be at least one of the many reasons why he retired.

[Alexa de Paris]

I dont think this is likely mostly because I have looked at several sites for warning signs and symptoms of seizure, and none of them describe what he alleged to have gone through on the plane.  She said his "eyes just fixed" and then he just blanked out" what does that even mean? he sat there like a mannequine with his eyes open? or did he pass out? secondly,  it has been shown that there is no record nor any official admitting that he ever was in the hospital. If he had become unconcious, and it was suspected that he had OD the hospital would have never let him leave several hours later- he was treated for dehydration- i found this in two different sources soon after it happened and it would make much better sense since he was fighting the flu. And if it had been dehydration the hospital wouldve let him leave. The whole scene that Judith described was hogwash.  That broad was lying...and she isnt even a good liar!

[Rainbowblue]

I dont think this is likely mostly because I have looked at several sites for warning signs and symptoms of seizure, and none of them describe what he alleged to have gone through on the plane.  She said his "eyes just fixed" and then he just blanked out" what does that even mean? he sat there like a mannequine with his eyes open? or did he pass out? secondly,  it has been shown that there is no record nor any official admitting that he ever was in the hospital. If he had become unconcious, and it was suspected that he had OD the hospital would have never let him leave several hours later- he was treated for dehydration- i found this in two different sources soon after it happened and it would make much better sense since he was fighting the flu. And if it had been dehydration the hospital wouldve let him leave. The whole scene that Judith described was hogwash.  That broad was lying...and she isnt even a good liar!

lol!!!
When I read Judith Hill's article I was like who wrote this?

Yeah her article sounds kinda like one of those sci-fi channel reenactments.

Hey can you please post your sources. I feel we gotta exhaust every possible avenue or theory (that we have a the attention span for).

If Prince was on a plane with Judith Hill why did she wait until an interview to say so? No Facebook posts?

Yep the hospital said he was never admitted there. So is she saying he went and didn't sign in. Somehow corroborating the TMZ hospital stay?

Disinformation is false information intentionally put out to confuse or hide the truth.

If her story is disinformation, it seems that they are providing yet another theory to confuse everyone.

Plus in another article the mysterious "sources" list the epilepsy seizure control meds on toxicology report (is that private too?).

Epilepsy is a condition he said he had as a child. He also said he had a prolonged flu.

A seizure is more believable to many than an overdose. So is an accident. Seizure also sounds a lot nicer.

From overdose to accidental overdose the media and "sources" feed us lies, twists and offshoots.

Disinformation is meant to confuse. Obscure the truth.

This is a few "fams" on the Prince.org talking about Price and a possible epileptic seizure on the plane.

Hmmm let's investigate.

"Yes, altitude can affect some who have epilepsy or are prone to seizures....But the weird thing is he flew all the time. However, that is what sucks about it...IT just comes when you least expect it, even if dormant. As a young child my child had those 'fixated eyes' staring off (the are called complex partial seizures if you want to google them)..oddly enough...one of the 'triggers' used to be....SWINGS. Some people laugh with seiziures, some have nausea of vomit, etc as a seizure. Every person is totally different, not just what you see on tv.

>>Breathing drops during a seizure and heartrate changes during one. You can ask me anything, or PM if you want to know anything. I rememver when he first said he had it as a kid, that maybe some more exposure hence research/cures would be on the increase...There is so much they don't know about it.

>>

And I would say, my opinion, that some who have seizures are more sensitive to alot or things, noises, etc than others who don't have it..

>>

We know he had some type of drug is his body, maybe he was sick, maybe his epilepsy returned, maybe it was a combo of all... It sucks totally.

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

yzarcog99 said:

Amen...I have had a seizure that put me straight down, out like a light, as an adult. Completely out of nowhere. I do have to say that I don't recall hearing anyone or anything going on around me. Don't even remember it all, honestly. But everyone's experience is different and people can die from a seizure. It is a disruption of your bodies electrical system. Your heart can stop. That's why the "7" video always freaked me out a little--like going down in a seizure!

thank you for your insights here. have they mentioned anywhere what his breathing and heartbeat were like, aside from him being unresponsive?

sorry this is way out there, but i wonder if the being in the plane had anything at all to do with.... anything... and what the weather was like, would be so weird if it were connected to his unique sensitivity to some solar storm or something.

"

http://prince.org/msg/7/428236?&pg=21

[Rainbowblue]

A lot of people don't buy the drug O.D story so someone puts out a "new" story. Then another and another til...

[Rainbowblue]

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/3121#section=Top
Pay atention to number.
I suspect he never get rid from epilepsy.

Good find!
That compound is also found in the toxicology report, a mystery "source" says right.
compound/3121.

the double meanings and repeated themes and number s

[Alexa de Paris]

you do know what the 3121 is all about right? once someone asked him what his favorite scripture was and he replied "Psalms 31:21" I looked it up-

New International Version
Praise be to the LORD, for he showed me the wonders of his love when I was in a city under siege.  (rapture!)

[Alexa de Paris]

I dont think this is likely mostly because I have looked at several sites for warning signs and symptoms of seizure, and none of them describe what he alleged to have gone through on the plane.  She said his "eyes just fixed" and then he just blanked out" what does that even mean? he sat there like a mannequine with his eyes open? or did he pass out? secondly,  it has been shown that there is no record nor any official admitting that he ever was in the hospital. If he had become unconcious, and it was suspected that he had OD the hospital would have never let him leave several hours later- he was treated for dehydration- i found this in two different sources soon after it happened and it would make much better sense since he was fighting the flu. And if it had been dehydration the hospital wouldve let him leave. The whole scene that Judith described was hogwash.  That broad was lying...and she isnt even a good liar!

lol!!!
When I read Judith Hill's article I was like who wrote this?

Yeah her article sounds kinda like one of those sci-fi channel reenactments.

Hey can you please post your sources. I feel we gotta exhaust every possible avenue or theory (that we have a the attention span for).

If Prince was on a plane with Judith Hill why did she wait until an interview to say so? No Facebook posts?

Yep the hospital said he was never admitted there. So is she saying he went and didn't sign in. Somehow corroborating the TMZ hospital stay?

Disinformation is false information intentionally put out to confuse or hide the truth.

If her story is disinformation, it seems that they are providing yet another theory to confuse everyone.

Plus in another article the mysterious "sources" list the epilepsy seizure control meds on toxicology report (is that private too?).

Epilepsy is a condition he said he had as a child. He also said he had a prolonged flu.

A seizure is more believable to many than an overdose. So is an accident. Seizure also sounds a lot nicer.

From overdose to accidental overdose the media and "sources" feed us lies, twists and offshoots.

Disinformation is meant to confuse. Obscure the truth.

This is a few "fams" on the Prince.org talking about Price and a possible epileptic seizure on the plane.

Hmmm let's investigate.

"Yes, altitude can affect some who have epilepsy or are prone to seizures....But the weird thing is he flew all the time. However, that is what sucks about it...IT just comes when you least expect it, even if dormant. As a young child my child had those 'fixated eyes' staring off (the are called complex partial seizures if you want to google them)..oddly enough...one of the 'triggers' used to be....SWINGS. Some people laugh with seiziures, some have nausea of vomit, etc as a seizure. Every person is totally different, not just what you see on tv.

>>Breathing drops during a seizure and heartrate changes during one. You can ask me anything, or PM if you want to know anything. I rememver when he first said he had it as a kid, that maybe some more exposure hence research/cures would be on the increase...There is so much they don't know about it.

>>

And I would say, my opinion, that some who have seizures are more sensitive to alot or things, noises, etc than others who don't have it..

>>

We know he had some type of drug is his body, maybe he was sick, maybe his epilepsy returned, maybe it was a combo of all... It sucks totally.

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

yzarcog99 said:

Amen...I have had a seizure that put me straight down, out like a light, as an adult. Completely out of nowhere. I do have to say that I don't recall hearing anyone or anything going on around me. Don't even remember it all, honestly. But everyone's experience is different and people can die from a seizure. It is a disruption of your bodies electrical system. Your heart can stop. That's why the "7" video always freaked me out a little--like going down in a seizure!

thank you for your insights here. have they mentioned anywhere what his breathing and heartbeat were like, aside from him being unresponsive?

sorry this is way out there, but i wonder if the being in the plane had anything at all to do with.... anything... and what the weather was like, would be so weird if it were connected to his unique sensitivity to some solar storm or something.

"

http://prince.org/msg/7/428236?&pg=21

Hey Rainbow- here is one article that reported on the dehydration, Ill see if I can find the original where i saw it first:   http://qctimes.com/news/local/reports-prince-treated-at-trinity-moline/article_e64a023e-9f9b-5db1-b131-2f6d86a06a33.html

[MIRvmn]

I dont think this is likely mostly because I have looked at several sites for warning signs and symptoms of seizure, and none of them describe what he alleged to have gone through on the plane.  She said his "eyes just fixed" and then he just blanked out" what does that even mean? he sat there like a mannequine with his eyes open? or did he pass out? secondly,  it has been shown that there is no record nor any official admitting that he ever was in the hospital. If he had become unconcious, and it was suspected that he had OD the hospital would have never let him leave several hours later- he was treated for dehydration- i found this in two different sources soon after it happened and it would make much better sense since he was fighting the flu. And if it had been dehydration the hospital wouldve let him leave. The whole scene that Judith described was hogwash.  That broad was lying...and she isnt even a good liar!

Yes I don't think he ever was at any hospital otherwise the media would have been there taking pictures of him etc. All Tmz got is that blurry footage of the emergency landing and it isn't any real proof.   

[MIRvmn]

A lot of people don't buy the drug O.D story so someone puts out a "new" story. Then another and another til...

It has turned into a soap opera lol

[Rainbowblue]

I dont think this is likely mostly because I have looked at several sites for warning signs and symptoms of seizure, and none of them describe what he alleged to have gone through on the plane.  She said his "eyes just fixed" and then he just blanked out" what does that even mean? he sat there like a mannequine with his eyes open? or did he pass out? secondly,  it has been shown that there is no record nor any official admitting that he ever was in the hospital. If he had become unconcious, and it was suspected that he had OD the hospital would have never let him leave several hours later- he was treated for dehydration- i found this in two different sources soon after it happened and it would make much better sense since he was fighting the flu. And if it had been dehydration the hospital wouldve let him leave. The whole scene that Judith described was hogwash.  That broad was lying...and she isnt even a good liar!

Yes I don't think he ever was at any hospital otherwise the media would have been there taking pictures of him etc. All Tmz got is that blurry footage of the emergency landing and it isn't any real proof.

Initially I thought the PRESS would have been there at the hospital but I doubt it. The tabloids don't follow famous people around much in Chicago let alone a small town like Moline.

When Kanye or the Kardashians come around Chicago or a film is being shot in Chicago there aren't any tabloids. Just local news if it is an advertised event.

But just walking around? Celebs don't get harassed by the press. Maybe a few fans.
If you want PRESS in the Midwest, you gotta bring your own.

The President Obama and Hilary Clinton are from the area. Obama still walks around low key in Chicago.

It's not like L.A, New York, Miami or Atlanta even. No tabloid media presence in Chicago let alone Moline.

When the Jackson's come to Gary  Indiana even Michael, no tabloids mostly fans.

On a late night early morning in that area Prince could've went unrecognised.

But after he was reported to have OD then died a bystander would've at least tweeted later they noticed him during the hours in the ER (or Judith Hill). Someone to interview. Like they did in Chanhassen. (With the "I saw Prince o riding a bicycle " story)

But the hospital put out the statement he wasn't treated there.

Even if they only gave him an I.V drip for dehydration or a glass of water, the hospital would've started paper work and gotten his name or an alias. Several hours sitting around in an ER or  anywhere in a hospital staff comes around to gather info.

Even if they weren't recognised. Prince, Judith Hill and the Bodyguard/Management/drummer guy would've stuck out around there in Moline.  Someone would've  saw them at least.
https://suburbanstats.org/race/illinois/moline/how-many-black-or-african-american-people-live-in-moline-illinois

If they waited 5mins kept flying and had him treated in Minnesota Everyone would have recognized him. A lot of witnesses.

Your right.

That video of a plane being met by an ambulance could be from any where. No identifying markers to show a connection to Prince or the plane he was on. The time period or location aren't identifiable.

Nope that isn't proof.

[Rainbowblue]

you do know what the 3121 is all about right? once someone asked him what his favorite scripture was and he replied "Psalms 31:21" I looked it up-

New International Version
Praise be to the LORD, for he showed me the wonders of his love when I was in a city under siege.  (rapture!)

Cool Alexa de Paris
Heard that but never made a rapture connection

New Earth or New Jerusalem too

Psalms 31:21
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Blessed is Lord Jehovah who has chosen The Elect Ones for himself in the strong city.

"A city under siege" I thought of the scriptures about being encamped by enemies. The lord preparest a table for me in the mist of my enemies.
Jehovah Jireh. Lord Jehovah my provider, my protector my Shepard that sort of thing.
http://www.believersweb.org/view.cfm?ID=894

Psalms is all poetry and songs. He was still at war with Warner Bros during 3121. He was Black listed from major music for the most part during that time. Hard to get radio and video airplay for the work he put out independently.

I thought of that and never went into it much.

Found this a few months back

His second wife "Manuela replied to someone on FB that "3121" was written while they had a home at 3121 Antelo Place, Bel Air, Los Angeles, and that parts of the 3121 movie were shot there (so, while they were married). "

http://prince.org/msg/7/389791?&pg=2

All the multiple meanings.

[MIRvmn]

I dont think this is likely mostly because I have looked at several sites for warning signs and symptoms of seizure, and none of them describe what he alleged to have gone through on the plane.  She said his "eyes just fixed" and then he just blanked out" what does that even mean? he sat there like a mannequine with his eyes open? or did he pass out? secondly,  it has been shown that there is no record nor any official admitting that he ever was in the hospital. If he had become unconcious, and it was suspected that he had OD the hospital would have never let him leave several hours later- he was treated for dehydration- i found this in two different sources soon after it happened and it would make much better sense since he was fighting the flu. And if it had been dehydration the hospital wouldve let him leave. The whole scene that Judith described was hogwash.  That broad was lying...and she isnt even a good liar!

Yes I don't think he ever was at any hospital otherwise the media would have been there taking pictures of him etc. All Tmz got is that blurry footage of the emergency landing and it isn't any real proof.

Initially I thought the PRESS would have been there at the hospital but I doubt it. The tabloids don't follow famous people around much in Chicago let alone a small town like Moline.

When Kanye or the Kardashians come around Chicago or a film is being shot in Chicago there aren't any tabloids. Just local news if it is an advertised event.

But just walking around? Celebs don't get harassed by the press. Maybe a few fans.
If you want PRESS in the Midwest, you gotta bring your own.

The President Obama and Hilary Clinton are from the area. Obama still walks around low key in Chicago.

It's not like L.A, New York, Miami or Atlanta even. No tabloid media presence in Chicago let alone Moline.

When the Jackson's come to Gary  Indiana even Michael, no tabloids mostly fans.

On a late night early morning in that area Prince could've went unrecognised.

But after he was reported to have OD then died a bystander would've at least tweeted later they noticed him during the hours in the ER (or Judith Hill). Someone to interview. Like they did in Chanhassen. (With the "I saw Prince o riding a bicycle " story)

But the hospital put out the statement he wasn't treated there.

Even if they only gave him an I.V drip for dehydration or a glass of water, the hospital would've started paper work and gotten his name or an alias. Several hours sitting around in an ER or  anywhere in a hospital staff comes around to gather info.

Even if they weren't recognised. Prince, Judith Hill and the Bodyguard/Management/drummer guy would've stuck out around there in Moline.  Someone would've  saw them at least.
https://suburbanstats.org/race/illinois/moline/how-many-black-or-african-american-people-live-in-moline-illinois

If they waited 5mins kept flying and had him treated in Minnesota Everyone would have recognized him. A lot of witnesses.

Your right.

That video of a plane being met by an ambulance could be from any where. No identifying markers to show a connection to Prince or the plane he was on. The time period or location aren't identifiable.

Nope that isn't proof.

Since it was Tmz who reported about the emergency landing I assume they was there and they are known for stalking celebrities and harass them, thats why I thought they would be at the hospital. But ur right, someone would have noticed Prince and tweeted about it and yes, the hospital denies that he was there "We had no patient by that name in our directory. There is a registration process for any patient who is admitted," it's perhaps our strongest evidence that emergency landing  is fake and it's made up in order to fit the overdose story and it was also a way to prepare us for what's coming. The video of the emergency landing looks kind of old since it's so blurry and we can barley see anything on it more than flashing lights. I think they have better security cameras these days