Luna!!!
Thanks for the post that helps a lot. Good to see you back.

Yep Medea, you're right even doctors admit opioids don't actually treat joint pain. Kinda makes the pain worse due to cravings after you develop a habit too. Though the doc's still prescribe opioids.
Everyone here most likely doubt the opiod addict story.

Even that unofficial report on the toxicology report no one has seen says he didn't have a addiction that taking opioids was "new" and accidental.

Thanks for the vids. Jules if you are having difficulty posting the videos perhaps you guys could just post the links to the site the videos are on and people can follow up the link to the page.

MIRVMN thanks for the post about the person who posted about Kirk going to Switzerland so people can find it easily.

The best way to leave the stage is to leave the audience wanting more.

Like a good athlete, retire while in good form.

Quote from: medea on January 18, 2017, 07:09:17 PM
I dont believe the joints pain story eather. He was small and lightweight, its very rare for lightweight people have serious joints problems and was vegetarian, and chronic pain often is because of chronic inflamation and this is rare in vegetarians.

Medea Prince was a dancer please look up or Google Search Dancers and Arthritis, or Dancers and knee pain Dancers and joint pain. Dancers and hip replacement, Ballet Dancers and chronic pain, young Dancers and Arthritis. How many professional dancers do we see above the age of 30. He was 57 at the time. I believed he was in pain because he was quoted as saying so before death.
It seems many performers who are dancers like Prince, Michael Jackson and James Brown at a point don't dance as often on stage to conserve their energy to avoid being in pain... A lot of dancers teach rather than continue pushing them selves to dance and perform at the same pace and or developing a pain medication habit.
It is well known dancers develop joint problems so if he is alive he may have used this fact as a cover story to explain a sudden pain medication habit (Which I doubt) I agree he doesn't look drugged out to me either.
It seems people implied that he was also using his Vegetable based diet to treat all his health problems rather than any chemical based pharmaceuticals

Magically appearing Pockets, drug habits and underwear
But...
There is still not Death Certificate, Autopsy report and no one including the ppl at his impromptu memorial on the day he died  has seen the body.
Perhaps people believe he is dead because it easier to not research ask questions or think.
When I saw the death report and Autopsy information were all press releases and not legal documents I had to do research and post about it. These are documented indisputable facts. Helps people to know they aren't alone in noticing something is off about this case.

Or...
He was murdered and this is all an elaborate government and media cover up. A Murder conspiracy, Which happens more often than a person hoaxing their death. More fams believe that he was killed
Until we get more facts we can't truly know

(Still if he were murdered by the government etc they'd have easily provided a Certified Death Certificate and Official Autopsy Report rather than all the "Press Releases" and privacy notices that only cover people who are actually dead not death hoaxers)

Great post Julles83 and Luna,
All we have heard is hearsay no police officer or investigator gave a official report except at the press conference (the sheriff smiling on the day he "died")
Unless we see a police report, this is all "unofficial".
Perhaps they want us to believe he put the pills in the underware he never wares but some unidentified person reported to the press he happened to be wearing them on that day...

"no underwear"
http://prince.org/msg/7/352858?pr

Prince was baptized Jehovah's witness and the elders watch every thing you do and will kick you out if you admit to having premarital sex of any kind. Including mutual masturbation and oral sex. Something Like you will be kicked out of the New Earth when Jehovah builds his kingdom. You will never see God or something like that, if they catch you. He's had several lovers since his last marriage and the songs he wrote about his sexual experiences after marriage such as "Breakfast can wait" which he talks about oral sex show he was most likely having oral sex. Not to get into too much about this guy's sex life... yet accounts of his version of absence from ppl who were "abstaining" with him even prior to his conversion show his version of abstinence wasn't always monastic celibacy. But I wasn't there so... Still his comments about "abstinence" should be taken with a grain of salt considering the circumstances. But you'd have to ask him or his girlfriends to really know for sure. Doubt many would say much. Still if he Practiced Celibacy for a period in between committed girlfriends and abstained from vaginal intercourse with some of his girlfriends for romantic, spiritual reasons, or what have you doesn't mean he was abstaining from other forms of sex or he has AIDS.

If anyone wants to discuss the AIDS questions... Or whatever else have at it.

But it is commonly believed by MJ believers that the death trial was a TV show production. No one has a record of his doctor being in jail no inmate saw him either. MJ's mom even mentioned it under oath at the other trial. Also I think they proved the judge was an actor.
I'm going to post some links on this same comment and edit them in. Check back for the links some time if you want. They'll be here sooner or later

Glad to hear you talking Panda

Quote from: Julles83 on January 09, 2017, 05:55:20 PM
Just my thoughts, not trying to upset anyone...

No worries. I'm not trying to get upset or upset anyone. Thanks for your consideration.
It's alright to question a theory, hypothesis, plan of action or thought someone has stated.
But it's not alright to question a person in a personal manner.
I Ask people to show the facts that helped them come to that thought.
Play devil's advocate sometimes just to get ideas fleshed out. It would be good if some of the people who don't think it is possible Prince maybe alive, that he was murdered or are on the fence joined the conversation and debated us. You know to keep us researching and thinking from all angles. Try and keep logic going.

Um yeah Luna
I've been noticing that. It may be just members who aren't logging in. You may have to talk to the admins about a private area for members only. Could be the guests are looky-loos. But u r right we don't know who they are and anyone can look in. If it's Prince's team perhaps they can read we don't mean anyone any harm. Not writing a book for profit, creating YouTube videos doing shows or interviews about Prince faking his death or exposing him if he did. Just want to know if he's okay. I guess.

Yeah Luna you are correct, gotta protect the information better.

Looking at the "clues" strange occurrences... Really Prince? Really? The weird death, handling of the corpse
and police investigation...
If he's alive and only wanted privacy and to fade away from the public why not just pick heart attack due to over working or something else more believable, why the mystery? What other conclusions and action plans can be expected?
It's his life and his decision but is his life over?
Any questions, plans, issues concerns observations alternative actions? Thoghts Anyone?

 Ah yes and the Privacy thing.
I wrote a long time ago I didn't want to follow him around or locate his whereabouts. Others expressed other things. But I really don't think we should actively seek him out. Even if someone found him he can just say he is someone else.

Perhaps we just want to know he is definitely not dead and is safe.

Good point.
I'm kinda wondering the same thing.
But caught by who? I'm wondering?
I Prewrote this and didn't know where to put it. Maybe it fits here
"If Prince is alive. The Governmental agencies already know in all likelihood. The CIA, FBI etc keep passive servailance on all citizens and visitors to the States. Particularly since 9/11. If they are interested in Prince which they may or may not be. They'd be far ahead in their own research. If the "Illuminati" or shadow governments in charge of the New World Order are interested in Prince, would this forum really be telling them any thing they don't already know?"

Besides everyone thinks we are nuts anyways. MJ got caught or told on himself or maybe everyone is just as crazy as the main stream says and imaging things.

A lot of people are leaving the system
turning in their Birth certificates, social security numbers, I.D's, licenses and such
Most of em aren't famous
Not as many Death hoaxes perhaps but similar sentiment different tools

Doing a Death Hoax isn't illegal as long as you haven't broken any laws and Prince and his team haven't broken any laws so far.

Umm what else

As Luna said we've been going around in circles not really getting anywhere.
Change is constant

Here are a few things from the internet on the subject. Will post more here. If anyone finds anything please post
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INTERVIEWS
"On the Art and Hubris of 'Pseudocide,' or Faking One's Own Death"
By PATRICK SAUER
"a faked death (which officially goes by the excellent term "pseudocide").
Her new book Playing Dead: A Journey Through the World of Death Fraud goes deeper than an empty grave on the subject. Greenwood meets with investigators, experts, those who (however briefly) pulled it off, children of the pseudocidal, folks devoted to the still-living Michael Jackson, and eventually Filipino connections who bring her face-to-face with her own officially-certified mortality.
Greenwood spoke with Signature about the inherent difficulty in pursuing the project, the main reason people get tripped up, fake MJ, and the role of hubris in pseudocide." http://www.signature-reads.com/2016/08/on-the-art-and-hubris-of-pseudocide-or-faking-ones-own-death/
Private Investigators helped solve this case

"Patrick Kim McDermott is an American cameraman of Korean descent, who some suspect of faking his own death in 2005. In 2010, it was alleged that McDermott had faked his own death and was living in Mexico.[2]But his ex wife Yvette Nipar does not believe that he is alive. He was the on-and-off boyfriend of Olivia Newton-John.[3]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_McDermott
"Olivia Newton-John's former boyfriend Patrick McDermott is 'alive and living in Mexico' | Daily Mail Online"

"A separate investigation into McDermott's disappearance was launched by Texas-based private investigator Philip Klein in 2009, with his findings later revealed in a 2010 episode of Dateline."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3501871/Olivia-Newton-John-s-former-boyfriend-alive-living-Mexico-German-girlfriend.html
(Wouldn't expose Prince if it were found he was living and doing well)

Please do not call me love and direct insults and sarcastic remarks towards me at the same time.
That is not love.
That's hate and insecurities.
If you are not at a certain level then keep your comments about your self to your self.
Projection is not correction.
Yes I know who the FBI is...
Yes I know who TMZ is...
Everyone here does.
No one here is smarter than any one else here.
We all know different things.
That's why we have a forum to join forces, ask questions and support each other not tear each other apart.
I read that Osama bin laden would blow up the World Trade Towers before he did. Then it happened.
Prince didn't tell me via YouTube we just read the same very convincing information.
I personally have met several people who have fought cases against the FBI and CIA and won.
This forum is not about me or those people. The CIA the FBI are all just people.
The Red pill and Blue pill have different meanings to different fringe theorists.
No human being or collective of human beings are greater than any individual human being. We were all made equally and individually in the sight of the one who made us all.
If you have an issue with me please keep it to your self.
This forum is not about me or you or anyone else besides Prince.
A private investigator can find out if there is an actual investigation going on by the FBI and the rest of the alphabet soup boys. We don't have to fight against any government agency if one is involved.
I am not a private investigator.
Yes a private investigator can find out the information we seek.
Freedom of information

Is that comment directed towards me?
Can you be specific in what you are saying .
Are you trying to insult me?

Quote from: LuVbuG on January 08, 2017, 06:48:55 PM
ask ur self are u at this level ?

Are you trying to be sarcastic?

Julles83 wrote:
"I tried searching public records in Minnesota for death certificate and NOTHING... I tried Prince Nelson,  Prince Rodgers Nelson, Prince Roger Nelson, Prince R Nelson and even Prince Rodger Nelson... every spelling possibility I could come up with and no certificate!"

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=eed4cd5c89eae40c7baf2ea51c7a8bf2&topic=11.30#forum

"I went back and tried Prince Rogers Nelson... guess what? NOTHING.."

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=eed4cd5c89eae40c7baf2ea51c7a8bf2&topic=11.30#forum

If Prince is physically dead. Where is his Death Certificate?

"Prince Death Investigation Documents to Remain Sealed"


"The search warrants and accompanying documents involved in the Prince death investigation will remain sealed until April 17, 2017. A court order filed Oct. 20 in Carver County extended the seal that was first requested just days after Prince's death. That first order expired Monday.

Why the documents are sealed
According to the court order: "Both state and federal law enforcement agencies continue an active, multi-agency investigation into the death of Prince Rogers Nelson, most commonly referred to as Prince. There are reasonable grounds to believe that making this search warrant public could create a substantial risk of a search or a related search to become unsuccessful or severely hamper an ongoing investigation."


http://www.fox9.com/news/213321412-story

You mean this?^
To my knowledge, We don't need to view the Search Warrant or the contents thereof. At this point we just want to know if he is dead or alive. Looking for his Death Certificate, any documentation that he has actually died. Or anything to prove he may be alive.
Those documents are not covered under the court order to seal the search warrant and accompanying documents. Nor is the Death Certificate covered under the Privacy portion of the Minnesota laws covering deceased persons.

His Death Certificate is a Public document. But where is it?
Is there a real police investigation into his death? Are there any court documents of
A private investigator can find the answers.