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Found it.

(Don't know if this is the woman who called a doctor etc I never heard of that story  if you are looking for a certain article you may want to Google search it using certain keywords you remember from what you remember reading..This is the Prince.org thread on the woman who Nevermind posted on filing a claim for Probate court. Notice how many people call her "crazy" and just discount her on that basis. But not many take notice about the holes in her case. The judge in this case is keeping the "craziness" going...why?)

Calling a person "crazy" doesn't discount their credibility. Still depending on issues they are dealing with may call in to question their reliability. Particularly if they have a personality disorder which caused them to lie, seek attention and participate in criminal behavior. Or if they also have a history of delusions or psychosis causing the person to have a hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality.

The person filed as "Indigent" which doesn't explain why this person doesn't have a lawyer. If she had any evidence a lawyer would take the case and she wouldn't have to figure it out on her own. Also it would be in "criminal Court" based on the accusations and not probate court. Probate don't handle murders or abuse just estate issues...
( This looks like more clowning in probate court to keep the whole circus going like the media circus around all the fake heirs take everyone's attention)
Can't check much on her Twitter page to see how "real" she is or not though.
This is what I got. Took about 5-15mins to find and post Googled "Jennifer Jeffers and Prince court documents" I think. Good luck guys.

This is pulled from Prince.org
Prince: Music and More > The Estate Discussion - Part 6 - Continued

"Also, who is Jennifer Jeffers?
The Judge found her to be indigent and is allowing her to proceed without paying any court costs and fees.

This was filed after Court hours today."


"Jennifer Jeffers?


https://twitter.com/Misknowital2012"

"Thanks PennyPurple for the link to this person. Did you happen to read her posts? I'm wondering if she is like Claire the secret wife or Martha the spiritual wife? Her recent posts are strange"

"-/-Why are they still letting people file claims? I thought the time for filing claims had long passed. This lady is nuts."

"Seemed very strange to me. I'mma surprised the judge would allow this to proceed."

"What the HECK is up w this chick? Wowwww"

"Jennifer Jeffers claims to have been on the phone with Prince and heard him being murdered by Tyka and Kirk. She reports a suppressed memory. Reports she and P were in love with each other and he promised to take care of her"

"Then maybe she should've called 911. eek
But seriously....why would the judge allow this in?
There's got to be a stop to all this madness at some point."
"Good grief what is up with this judge?"

"-He knows her claim is crap and he will be disallowed but at what do you close the door on these claims."

Prince: Music and More > The Estate Discussion - Part 6 - Continued

http://prince.org/msg/7/437482?jump=55&pg=2

("Witness Protection Myths

What are some of the lies Hollywood tells about the witness protection program?

Myth: Witnesses must fake their death—We've all heard about how those in the witness protection program fake their deaths before moving onto their new lives. This isn't true. Witnesses simply give their testimony, receive new identities, move to a new location, and cutoff all contact with old friends and extended family.")
http://stories.avvo.com/crime/the-witness-protection-program-exposed.html

(If Prince is in Witness Protection what roll does the probate court play? Why are they waiting to arrest anyone in this case? Who is Prince testifying against? Who's handling his affairs? If he's in Witness Protection he wouldn't be able to conduct his own affairs until after his testimony. After his testimony he would be on his own in protecting himself. Anyone have any ideas further on the Witness Protection theory)

Thank you Julles 83 and MIRvmn for being patient with me as well.

Welcome back Nevermind!
This looks like as the British say a "load of Bullock's". I don't know what that means but... Anyone can file this I could be wrong but it looks like this was witnessed by a notary public on her own with out the help of a lawyer. So this person may have type this up on their home computer and then took it down to the currency exchange (a check cashing place where you buy bus cards and pay phone and electrical bill and such) and had the person behind the counter a notary public stamp and sign it. Then she went down to the court and filed it.
There are no exhibits.
Exhibits are attachments or evidence provided to the court to prove your case. That you have evidence to have met the requirements for the legal prescedent or law etc that you claim has been broken.
For example she would need to have an exhibit showing a Phone record of Prince calling her.
I only took a quick look but the affidavit doesn't look to be in the correct format to be heard by the court. If she doesn't straighten it out, her claim is going to be thrown out pretty soon.

Then I Googled this woman's name and Prince
A few things came up ppl were discussing her on Prince.org
With links to her Twitteraccount saying she seemed really unstable Mentally.

When stars "die" imbalanced fans come out of the woodwork
A lot of them just want to be a part of the story, go down in history
Filing false claims with the courts n stuff

Thanks for posting this one
A lot of people think Tyka, her husband and Kurt are suspicious. They definitely act suspicious.
Since they aren't putting out anything else about the case more alternative sources will make claims to get the ball rolling on... something

Thank you for your patience with me as well Luna.
I can be harsh sometimes

Forum etiquette

"Site etiquette"

"Be effective"

"Stay on topic - try to focus on the original topic. In particular, don't change subject in the middle of an existing thread - just start a new topic."

https://www.stridonium.com/forumEtiquettte.aspx

Luna originally changed the subject from a private investigator to talking about "Moonbeam levels" and leaving the USA then MIRvmn. Neither of them got insulted when I said something about it.

Just got done going into AIDS questions. Then halfway done with questions about MJ's death Hoax. The original topic is "Private Investigator" etc

There's has to be order and use of etiquette. No offense but come on guys..

Perhaps everyone hasn't been in or read forums before. It's okay.

So I tracked down a couple of links about forums etiquette

"Forum Suggestions"

"The aforementioned etiquette guidelines are all some of the things that are required of members to most online forums. We are about to discuss some of the polite rules to follow on forums, but these polite rules are often not enforced. While most of the yet to be mentioned ideas are not enforced, they are strongly encouraged.

The first is probably the most important. Stay on topic. It sounds simple, but often people read a post and whatever comes to mind they feel they must share with everyone. That is fine to feel and fine to do, but usually is only alright if the person starts their own thread for their thought. It often seems okay to mention the thought in response within the thread, but if sharing the thought changes the subject of the thread it becomes hijacking. Hijacking occurs when someone changes the subject of someone else's thread and is considered very rude."

http://www.fishlore.com/aquariummagazine/jan08/forum-etiquette.htm

"Authors who begin a post do so for a reason -- they want to discuss or talk about that one thing. Sure, discussions evolve and can move beyond the original poster's topic. But that's a natural process that moves slowly over usually many pages of posts. Hijacking occurs much more rapidly, and the entire thread often devolves from there quickly.

Most people who engage in this behavior probably don't realize what they're doing, and don't mean to do it.

That's why it's important that before you reply to a thread, you ask yourself a simple question -- "Am I contributing to this thread, or am I changing the topic and/or focusing on some minor aspect that really isn't what this thread is about?"

If the answer is that you're probably focusing on some minor aspect or looking to change the topic altogether, you probably should post a brand-new thread instead. Of, if you want to start a conversation with just one member, consider using a PM instead.

I am not singling out any member here! I am just posting this because this seems to have become a bit more common recently and I want folks to realize this can be an issue when they post. Thank you.

DocJohn"

https://forums.psychcentral.com/other-mental-health-discussion/10481-please-do-not-hijack-other-peoples-threads.html

Yeah Julles you are right, those friends and family definitely know something and aren't saying anything. Prince's "death" is advantageous to them financially. But still why aren't they saying anything?

The 1st confirmation that my suspicions were right that Prince is alive was Shelia E's "we know what's going on" statement about the death of Prince. That was weird. Then all the quotes from People Tweeting that his Death coincided with song lyrics, his film Under the Cherry Moon and of course all of the numerology. Still we have talked about these subjects before we can revisit old threads and continue to add to the subject or start new threads. Let's please stay on topic.

On that Prince.org there was a section where people were allowed to talk about him being alive. People kept changing the subject and wouldn't let anyone who wanted to talk about a Death Hoax get a word in. Although the thread was titled "Prince is still alive, conspiracies etc". People who didn't want to hear it drowned out the Death hoaxers and those who thought P was murdered . Anyone who wanted to look into things got drowned out. Trolling. Hijacking the thread back to the he is dead, drug addict story, telling everyone to let it go and move on.

All Very suspicious...

I found this through the org.

"Justice 4 PRINCE by E. Mandisa Subira - GoFundMe"

"The Prince Fan Community is NOT satisfied with the progress made in the DEATH INVESTIGATION of Music Icon Prince Rogers Nelson

For our OWN Peace of Mind, we are

HIRING a PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR to look DEEPLY into this TRAGEDY."

https://www.gofundme.com/justice4prince

(People were doing the same thing to these guys for asking questions.

One detractor replied:)

"People if his familyAnd close friends Nor his beloved City of Minneapolis Minnesota.are notConcerned or upset or they haveJust possibly haveSay it as I sayAnd acceptGod giveth life and God take the life awayWhen its time..Let's let this go people...Whatever some private investigator is going to find out it's not going to help any of usAnd please trust and believe it would not bring Prince Rogers Nelson back.."

(Another who supported the Private Investigator idea shot back with this rant)

"So none of you find it odd that Prince was found with his clothes on backwards/back to front including socks, If you were to research this you would know what it meant a not to disgrace .. None of you find it odd that 6 of his close friends including a Lawyer insisted he was not a drug addict.. Are you ok with a Fox Journalist tweeting a Crime investigation vehicle entering Paisley Park a good 20 minutes before the Police report states they were dispatched to the scene of the Crime? you must be Dot You must be Ok with the fact then that it was the quickest Autopsy in history if there was one at all and that all bodily evidence was burned within 48 hrs unheard of ever!!.. You are also Ok it seems with the Fact that CNN reported gunshots at Paisley Park in the early hours before on the very day Prince died they ran this story for 20 minutes then pulled it you don't question or think to ask why.. Go watch Warners Controlled TMZ drink the cool Aid they are giving you believe it all and take your dollars and your Sheeple we believe anything opinions elsewhere please do not bring your negativity to this page don't donate if don't want to fair enough but the Woman that runs this worked with Prince it is a very Brave thing she is doing she has 20 years experience as an Activist Prince vetted and trusted her so that is good enough for me you need to be clean as a whistle to get anywhere near Paisley Park .. People are keeping quiet and complying because they could be killed too or did that not DAWN on you!! If he was Murdered he needs to be cleared of all these false accusations making him out to be a pill popping Junkie we need the truth regardless of wether his physical body is coming back or not .."

I don't know if any of that is true but why is everyone so against anyone looking into what happened to Prince?

If you guys get a chance please look at the links. Some are kinda funny.

Thanks again everyone for being patient with each other.

It's also his favorite Bible scripture.
His Death Date equaled 3121
His height 5'2 equals 7 which changed to 5'3 or 8 on the fake Death Certificate etc.
Yeah their is definitely more going on with this 3121 and the numerology than he has mentioned.
3121 memorabilia given to the fans who gathered for his death announcement.
He is definitely trying to tell us something for a long time with these numbers.
He changed his middle name all equaling Prince (6 letters) Rogers (6 letters)
Nelson (6 letters) adding up to 666 the number of man in the Bible. Also 666 is the number of carbon on the periodic table. All life on Earth is Carbon based.

I wrote this a while ago and reedited:
"For example, I think just because Morris posted that, like many others, he noticed that the date of Prince's death equaled the numerological 777,  on its own doesn't give enough evidence to prove Prince is Alive. There are a couple of YouTube videos discussing this theory, who's authors don't show evidence of studying numerology, biblical code or much else. Displayin symptoms of Psychosis and delusions in their videos. Saying 777 automatically means Death Hoax, doesn't mean it really does. There are many cases 777 doesn't automatically mean a Celebrity death hoax is going on. Gotta have a little more proof than song lyrics and death dates to prove Prince is not dead but still alive. People use the same evidence to say "777" means Illuminati killed him.

When I was a "guest" before I joined the site, I noticed that people weren't really discussing hard evidence just circumstantial evidence. So I did a little research into the "facts" we were given. The press releases for example being passed off as a death certificate and autopsy report when the real one is absent. Because I did some research rather than just relying on my feelings, I found hard indisputable evidence that supported my feelings that Prince is alive.
I've been studying conspiracy theories since I was an early teen. Seen a few people go "crazy" believing every theory they read that sounds reasonable enough. There is nothing wrong with being mentally ill but certain types of mental health issues cotain symptoms like psychosis. Making the person not necessarily the most reliable source. There are mentally ill people who make videos too. Also many YouTubers just regurgitate what other YouTubers post and don't do their own research, just reformat something they saw to support their personal beliefs. Can't believe everything, it's good to do some fact checking.

Perhaps making things look like a Death Hoax is the new method for the Illuminati to cover their tracks after they kill someone. "Oh don't worry friends, fans and family. This Celebrity who was reported dead under mysterious circumstances is in an underground bunker on a private island with Elvis. They surf with aliens on Tuesdays. Stop researching and be happy for them. Respect their privacy... Um, What!? Yeah..."


(If some people don't want to research or invistigate then don't. But please don't try and drown out those of us who do. The site is name Prince Death Hoax Investigators.

Prince also believed in studying, research and investigation. He also believed in work. It wasn't all about one thing over the other.

We need the spiritual and the physical, the philosophical and factual to have order and balance.

Numbers, Numerology, Codes, meaning etc and the Prince Death Hoax
Here are some excerpts about the subject research we have so far about the subject with the links so they can be easily found
This one was started by Eliss
Can be found under:

"Prince knows something others don't?
« on: December 21, 2016, 03:59:07 PM »
http://www.dreamtimecode.com/2015/03/post-25-lets-review.html 

Also, for Enochian language;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian
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(There was a few threads on the old site about Morris Day, 3121, 777, Death Hoax Codes, and the meaning behind numbers with links and videos but that info is gone now when the old site was hacked. Here is a good thread with a lot of information and research into the subject started by Eliss it can be found here with the link)

Re: Connected? YES..!!
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2016, 10:33:43 AM »
7 months before I shared comment on Prince instagram overdose chocolate and another his photo;there are some watches on his clothes.. in both photographs ı wrote that he is alive.. 2 days after ı wrote that due to an unknown reason ı can not use my instagram.. it said not active.. then,ı wrote Morris on facebook.. he blocked me  ı dont give up.. and a new account on facebook comment again  finally,when I saw this video on YouTube, I said there are someone who thought the same as me
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Prince Death Hoax connections to
Songs, Film, Multimedia, Photographs, Social Media, Music Videos and so on

These are quotes from other threads on the subject so far.

"Rainbow my feelings  telling me the same  that 💜prince💜 is  alive  since  he didn't  like  New change   in America  and  his star reached  the heights levels in the sky .he is   honestly  telling us that he wanted die  in different place  because he don't liked here  anymore  especially  when he send us his  clue  with new song 🌜moon beam level🌛I'm certain  that  this  song  isn't  old one that's really the new one thanks.

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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2017, 12:55:50 PM »
I  wonder why  we  didn't speak about moon beam levels? It's  interesting  subject  or doing  pull   or how many users think that the  lyrics  is  very  New not old how they telling  us    and we can ask if  they  shear   their   thought   about it you know  how it worked   and we can  find  some new clue  wen we shear  our  thoughts thanks
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Quote from: Luna on January 24, 2017, 11:32:27 AM
Rainbow my feelings  telling me the same  that 💜prince💜 is  alive  since  he didn't  like  New change   in America  and  his star reached  the heights levels in the sky .he is   honestly  telling us that he wanted die  in different place  because he don't liked here  anymore  especially  when he send us his  clue  with new song 🌜moon beam level🌛I'm certain  that  this  song  isn't  old one that's really the new one thanks.
I find it interesting that out of all unreleased songs Prince chose Moonbeam Levels (a song he has planned to release before in 1989 and 2002 but has holding it back for some reason) to be included on the new greatest hits package, maybe he felt that now was the right time to release it since it contains lyrics which best describes how he feel right now about everything. The song works well with the hoax and is a obviously a clue, what makes me think that is not only how the lyrics fits, but how well the title "Moonbeam levels" fits into all of this. We have seen Princes face in the moon numerous times after his "death" on eclusive merchandise from Paisley Park (t-shirts etc), adverts and his latest tweet from 24th august last year. Not to mention the moon phases on his clothes. So the moon has played a huge part in the hoax  and worked well as one of his clues.
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« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2017, 02:45:12 PM »
I also agree with Rainbowblue, we need more information to be sure if hes still alive and the most logical step at this point in order to move forward is to find the death certificate. But that itself isn't a real proof of his death since u can fake anything and it's possible Prince has everything covered in order for this hoax to be as realistic as possible, we all know how clever he is. But then again, why didn't they show us the real death certificate from the begining?  I'm not affraid of finding out the truth, I'm well aware of that he might actually be dead but at this point theres more hinting that hes alive rather than dead
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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2017, 03:25:08 PM »
Thanks for your reply   you have 🐥🐥two  birds  with one stone.  The  moon  has  very   big  place   in   prince's  work    you're very wise   there's  absolutely  something special behind  his jewels ears🌞🌚and the star's.  The  8the track   in prince's  the23 album RAVE UN2  THE  JOY CANTASTIC.TBANKS AGAIN
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2017, 08:31:36 PM »
I agree that there is a possibilitythat he may actually be dead, but, I agree even more that there is a possibility that he is not.

I have listened to moonbeam levels a number of times,  and I  feel like there is a message there. "I'm looking for a better place to die"

He left America before because he didn't like it here, why not do it again? Only this time,  permanently.

I've also been giving some thought about the sealed documents. What if they arent in fact sealed? Because there is nothing to seal?
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« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2017, 10:44:07 PM »
Thanks  Julles83  .And   exactly  again  and again  I repeating  that  prince is very  clever man   and  he is interested in  the news  and what's  happening  in his  area.he is clearly  telling  us what he think  about  this  world  he left  all the fool's.  I'm certain  that   in  April  nothing new  they  can tell us  .
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I (do NOT) think things that can be easily explained away as coincidence... such as song lyrics, are on their own, enough to prove Prince is alive.

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=265.msg1052;topicseen#new

I do NOT think song lyrics are on their own enough to prove Prince is alive. Song lyrics can easily be explained away as coincidence.

I don't think Prince is talking about moving away from America to die in a different physical place in "Moonbeam Levels". The Babylon system, Matrix or Illuminati is everywhere on this planet.

Prince said many times he wouldn't ever leave Miniapplolis. Where ever he roamed, that he would always have a home there.

In Moonbeam levels, he also says he "doesn't really want to die" repeatedly. Later Jehovah Witness beliefs coincide with that. Becoming Immortal and creating heaven on Earth. This is found in all beliefs systems that teach on the 3rd eye. Particularly ancient Kemetic or Egyptian beliefs. The diety Thoth... Restoration to righteousness...Physical Immortality on Earth..The 3rd Eye...The Moon... The Love Symbol... Prince.

I think he is talking about spiritual transcendence moving to another place spiritually as well as Mentally and Physically.

Luna, Julles and MIRvmn, I agree Moonbeam levels being released according to his wishes looks like it is definitely a "clue".

Have you all listened to "Way back Home"?

But it can also be argued it's all coincidence. Song lyrics are not hard facts. Songs create , pictures and journeys in sound and vibration. A private investigator would be less likely to get distracted by songs or conspiracies, nor caught up in wishes and just stick to provable facts.
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A gree  with you that  song  lyrics is  not the prove  and evidence  I wanted that we share  our idea abut it  .all so  I didn't  mean that Prince  has  moved from   America   he  moved  from the  rules  only  and the haunting   area    he can easily    change his  please   we know  that  he has many  property  inside  minneapolis   thanks for your  participate.
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« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2017, 07:50:20 PM »
I think it's clear we all have different ways of thinking/ seeing things.

I simply was stating mine. I'm not saying I KNOW he left America, I'm just saying that he has done it before, why not again. I have no proof.

Honestly, we have no proof of anything. Is he dead? No proof. His he alive? Still, no proof.

I know that I personally find all the numbers involved in this fascinating simply because he always seemed to play off of numbers.

He himself said that there are no such things as coincidences.

Certainly don't mean to upset anyone here by saying what I think.

The whole thing is a mystery much like prince himself.
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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2017, 08:40:49 PM »
Be sure  Julles 83  you're  welcome here  you're  not  upset anyone   and  why  we're here to  share  and discuss  this mystery  about  prince's  passing  . You're  not wrong   that  we haven't  any proofs  if he's dead or alive   ?  And  here we are  to  speak about every thing   out loud and tell and ask  about this matter  .Really  we need  real action  but  I'm  certain that Prince feel more protected in  his  own   place   he  doesn't trust  strangers   thanks.
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2017, 08:56:42 PM »
Thank you Luna. You're right, he doesn't trust strangers. There is just so much that doesn't make sense.  So much false information. False documents. False media publication's. We don't know what is true, and what is not at this point. Thanks for your response!
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:)Be  Patient  here nobody trust the  media  .We give them one more chance   .I'm  looking  forward  in April   when they  come  with something new   all though I expect nothig new .we wait.thanks
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An excerpt from "A little clue Maybe" started by MIRvmn with a link at the bottom
"Someone posted this on Facebook, pointing out how similar the pictures looks like. I think Prince intentionally made his last picture look like the the old one to show us that he came to full circle, it's a little clue. Also intresting is that he chose to take his last picture in front of the artwork for each year in his career. It's like a farewell picture, his way to say Goodbye."

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=268.msg1064;topicseen#new
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I have to take breaks some times.
Please come back soon.
You are very important to us and we all appreciate hearing your thoughts and feedback here.

This thread is about getting a Private Investigator to find out hard facts to show if Prince is dead or alive.
I don't believe in coincidence. Meaning is where you find it.
Again I have seen people who lost their sense of reality by going into too much about conspiracy theories or "coincidences" making connections with their minds. Unable to focus on one subject, unable to hold a congruent conversation. Seeing people who literally do not exist. Believing their mother is a reptilian demon. Believing the government is contacting them. Getting forcibly locked up in mental institutions, because they were in danger of killing or have harmed themselves and others.
Have any of you seen the film "A beautiful mind" it is well done and illustrates alot it is also a true story.
People with psychosis and delusions make YouTube videos too. I know that for a fact. I know a few people who make YouTube videos in their personal lives and they admit to definitely have deficulties in that area. Many others don't.
Knowing that I try and be careful about believing every thing.
Not saying we are all delusional or suffering from psychosis here but a lot of people may think we are. When I talk to people I know who like Prince and discuss the possibility that he is more likely alive than dead...
I like Prince's lyrics and the numbers connections.
However every discussion can not revolve around lyrics and numbers.

I (do NOT) think things that can be easily explained away as coincidence... such as song lyrics, are on their own, enough to prove Prince is alive.

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=265.msg1052;topicseen#new

I do NOT think song lyrics are on their own enough to prove Prince is alive. Song lyrics can easily be explained away as coincidence.

I don't think Prince is talking about moving away from America to die in a different physical place in "Moonbeam Levels". The Babylon system, Matrix or Illuminati is everywhere on this planet.
Prince said many times he wouldn't ever leave Miniapplolis. Where ever he roamed, that he would always have a home there.
In Moonbeam levels, he also says he "doesn't really want to die" repeatedly. Later Jehovah Witness beliefs coincide with that. Becoming Immortal and creating heaven on Earth. This is found in all beliefs systems that teach on the 3rd eye. Particularly ancient Kemetic or Egyptian beliefs. The diety Thoth... Restoration to righteousness...Physical Immortality on Earth..The 3rd Eye...The Moon... The Love Symbol... Prince.
I think he is talking about spiritual transcendence moving to another place spiritually as well as Mentally and Physically.
Luna, Julles and MIRvmn, I agree Moonbeam levels being released according to his wishes looks like it is definitely a "clue".

Have you all listened to "Way back Home"?

But it can also be argued it's all coincidence. Song lyrics are not hard facts. Songs create , pictures and journeys in sound and vibration. A private investigator would be less likely to get distracted by songs or conspiracies, nor caught up in wishes and just stick to provable facts.

Quote from: Luna on January 12, 2017, 11:17:38 PM
I think  everyone here knows   my opinion  about this subject   Why I'm  here  simply because I don't believe  that Prince has passed  away.   I  can't  use  (was) when I'm writing some thing  about Prince. It's very  sad that every time  we come back  to the same  dots  .The  whole stories  about Prince 1 flu 2 drug's overdose  3 Aids  these  are  certainly not the truth   everyone knows that TMZ how's Warner bros are the owner  are  prince's enemies  they tell the lies and people believing in everything  without  asking themselves how did prince died ? Show me the  real death certificate  or autopsy more than I phage  the investigation not fini shed yet  the day after she had his ashes  she knew about 2 year's   and her brother's body stayed in elevator for 6 hours? Seriously   if prince preparing to die  why he didn't have a will  .please  I don't want  bring  the old  news  again  because it's really waste of time .I'm sorry  but I don't promise   anyone here that next year they can see prince walking in  the shops or someone saw him on his bike  maybe  we can never  find out  I miss him really  dearly. . I DO believe  that  Prince  is very  clever man   and he knew that he surrounded with  enemies  he  gave us too much  he's too generous  he's tired and need rest.why why and  why so many questions without answers  like a rainbow without colour like a mouth withou tounge  they must answer our question first then we decide  if we can believe that Prince  is really not with us any more .I know that people die every day and Prince too is a human   but    givè me  an acceptable reason  how?  .Prince    remained  thin  because    he couldn't sleep  long   and  hard worker .All of you  I'm  very  sorry but  I can't   shake my head and say  OK    understood   No  I don't understand WHY  and  how  Prince has died   with  some  rubbish evidence  that T M Z   showed us .Thanks everyone.

You expressed yourself beautifully here Luna. You shut it down.
     I can relate. Panda as well. I want to believe Prince is alive but there needs to be more research and evidence to support a belief. I feel as if he's alive. I'd rather reasonably "know" Prince is alive and turn over the stones and look into things, while respecting his privacy.
     Only a living man can be angry at people checking his pulse. But still a reasonable person would understand why someone is checking in on them. We need more Information.
    For example, I don't think things that can be easily explained away as coincidence, such as 777, 2131, death dates and song lyrics are on their own enough to prove Prince is alive.
     I agree Luna, We need to do more research, get more facts rather than clutch at straws letting so little, quinch our thirst.
     I've been studying conspiracy theories since I was an early teen. Seen a few people go "crazy" believing every theory they read that sounds reasonable enough to them. There is nothing wrong with dealing with mental health issues. However Can't believe everything, it's good to do some fact checking.
     We haven't seen Prince's dead body but we haven't seen his living body either...
Not that I'm trying to "see" Prince but we need to see more than we are being shown to truly "know" or reasonably make a good guess, based on logic.

A Private investigator who deals with these cases professionally, could be a big help.

The Death of Prince is very emotional no need for anyone here to be sorry about being passionate about finding the truth. Let's hopefully use this passion for truth productively.
http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=265.msg992;topicseen#new

Quote from: Panda on January 12, 2017, 04:07:57 AM
I do believe that MJ really died because there was a trail and a man went to prison.  But with Prince, nothing. 

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?action=post;quote=987;topic=265.15

Quote from: Rainbowblue on January 12, 2017, 06:36:13 AM
But it is commonly believed by MJ believers that the death trial was a TV show production. No one has a record of his doctor being in jail no inmate saw him either. MJ's mom even mentioned it under oath at the other trial. Also I think they proved the judge was an actor.
I'm going to post some links on this same comment and edit them in. Check back for the links some time if you want. They'll be here sooner or later

Glad to hear you talking Panda

http://princehoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?action=post;quote=987;topic=265.15

(So Panda sorry it is taking me so long to post this, having trouble finding everything a few links are gone. Will edit more in later. Please check back.H ere are some videos, articles and pages I found informative)

"Watch "Michael Jackson Death Hoax (Life Casts)" on YouTube"
https://youtu.be/WGX3TlPcZZ4
Watch "Conrad Murray Trial Analysis-- 6 Reasons That May Confirm a DEATH HOAX" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/fMqP0lSbuWQ
(Here is an excerpt from MJHoaxEvidence I learn a lot from this person very informative and well researched).

"MJHoaxEvidence"

"Reason 1: WRONG DATES--Why can't the court get any IMPORTANT dates right? Why are there typos and incorrect dates EVERYWHERE in this trial?

Reason 2: (in)CORRECT COURT PROCEDURES--What is the correct procedure when it comes to the way a verdict is read? Why did Judge Michael Pastor not follow the procedures done as in other trials? Can a Juror correct a mistake on his/her own?

Reason 3: RISING IN COURT--What is common when it comes to reading the verdict in a trial. Isn't the defendant suppossed to STAND UP?!?!?

Reason 4: NAMES-What is Michael Jackson's middle name? Is it Joseph or JOE? Well evidence suggests that his middle name is Joe as it is explained in Jermaine Jackson's current book "You Are Not Alone- Through a Brother's Eyes". There is other proof that his middle name is JOE as well. If the court has an incorrection in a trial, the verdict is liable to be tossed out!!!

Reason 5: HANDCUFF PROCEDURE--What is the correct procedure when handcuffing a prisoner or convicted felon? Should they be in a seated position or standing?

Reason 6: PHOTOSHOPPED AUTOPSY PHOTO--Despite other visual reasons why the autopsy photo is a clear fake, there is also a confirmation from a computer program that the AUTOPSY PHOTO IS A FAKE.

Decide for yourselves. I have done extensive research for over a period of two years. Despite the fact that there was a trial and a verdict does NOT MEAN THAT MICAHEL IS DEAD. According to the evidence that I have seen in the trial and other inconsistant stories from this trial, it leads many to believe that Michael Jackson is very much alive and well."
"Watch "Top 7 Clues Murray Trial was Fake (Michael Jackson)" on YouTube"
https://youtu.be/TZNXikUoc5I

(The Death Hoax got so popular that the people who were accused of killing him didn't believe he was dead)
"AEG attorney Marvin Putnam said he would not stipulate that Michael Jackson was dead."

"Michael Jackson-AEG wrongful death trial opensMonday"
April 23, 2013|By Jeff Gottlieb
"Jackson's mother and children are suing Los Angeles entertainment giant AEG, alleging it is liable for Jackson's death because it hired and supervised Dr. Conrad Murray, who used a powerful surgical anesthetic in an effort to help the singer cope with insomnia. Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in 2011.

Perhaps the oddest moment of the jury picking occurred Tuesday when AEG attorney Marvin Putnam said he would not stipulate that Michael Jackson was dead."
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/23/local/la-me-ln-michael-jackson-aeg-20130423

"Marvin Putnam of AEG live Michael Jackson is NOT dead"
Apr 23, 2013 - "Marvin Putnam said he would not stipulate that Michael Jackson was dead." Marvin Putman's latest statement is rather ..."
http://www.teammichaeljackson.com/archives/8186

"In the law of the United States, a stipulation is a formal legal acknowledgement and agreement made between opposing parties prior to a pending hearing or trial. For example, both parties might stipulate to certain facts, and therefore not have to argue those facts in court."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipulation

"Michael Jackson Death Hoax Community AEG Lawyer won't stipulate"
Apr 24, 2013 - AEG Lawyer won't stipulate Michael Jackson as being ... Panish: I'm asking forstipulation that MJ's dead. http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=23808.0

"Watch "AEG Lawyer Will Not Stipulate That MJ Was Dead" on YouTube"
https://youtu.be/--EtuEng6W0

AEG lawyer concedes: Michael Jackson is dead
By Alan Duke, CNN Thu May 2, 2013
"A week after AEG's lawyer refused to concede for legal arguments that Michael Jackson is dead, he acknowledged the pop icon's death in court.

The stipulation -- an agreement between two parties in a case that something is a given fact -- could save time in a trial that is expected to last several months.

Michael Jackson's mother and children are suing AEG Live, contending the concert promoter is liable for the pop icon's death because it negligently hired, retained and supervised Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician convicted of involuntary manslaughter in his death.

While acknowledging Jackson died on June 25, 2009, AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam is still reluctant to stipulate what killed him and that Murray was the cause.

Panish: "I'm asking for a stipulation that Michael Jackson died and the cause of death. Are you willing to stipulate that Michael Jackson died?"

Putnam: "Absolutely."

Panish: "Are you willing to stipulate that the cause of his death was Dr. Murray?"

Putnam: "That you've never asked before. Let me look at what that means."

Putnam refused to stipulate that Jackson was dead at a pretrial hearing last week, later explaining to CNN that he did not want to concede any elements that are needed to prove the case against AEG.

AEG organized and hosted a massive public memorial service for Jackson at the Staples Center in Los Angeles 12 days after his death.

Dr. Christopher Rogers, the deputy medical examiner who conducted the autopsy on Jackson, will be called to testify after that questioning of Martinez concludes Thursday. No court is scheduled for Friday."
Paid Content
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/showbiz/jackson-death-trial/

(The possible Death Hoax of Michael Jackson being acknowledged in court)

(I don't agree with some of her tactics or conclusions but this death hoax researcher makes very good videos and I and others noticed the same things she speaks about ...)Watch "Conrad Murray Convicted Himself" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/aw0hejx3NJY

(We don't have any footage of Conrad Murray being in jail or released from jail.)
Will post more soon

Quote from: Kylie on January 20, 2017, 12:24:20 AM
This article came out out on April 28

http://www.fox9.com/news/133969772-story

Sheriff's office discounts reports of drugs found on Prince

"Fox 9 spoke to Carver County Chief Deputy Jason Kamerud on Wednesday. He said those reports (that prescription painkillers were found on Prince and at Paisley Park)  were news to him and confirmed the sheriff's office has not yet asked for the DEA's help with the investigation. He added that the DEA is not part of the active investigation at this time."

If you could find another link Julles that would be great. I'd love to see how agile Prince was when everyone else is saying he was sick.

Kylie!!!
Thanks for the article
It says a lot.
Glad you're back!